More Bullets for Stu

Lowetide
February 10 2011 05:39PM

All of the talk surrounding Hemsky and Penner being dealt is starting to cloud the issue: Steve Tambellini's job at the deadline is to deliver more bullets to Stu (Magnificent Bastard) MacGregor.
 

When Stu MacGregor is ordering room service in Minnesota (try the lutefisk!) here's hoping Steve Tambellini has more bullets (draft picks) for use on the draft floor. With the prospect list teeming with MacGregor gems, another mitt full of these young kids is vital.

Oilers current picks

  • 1st overall
  • 31st overall
  • 61st overall
  • Calgary's 3rd (probably about 75th overall)
  • 91st overall
  • Pittsburgh's 4th (probably about 115th overall)
  • 121st overall
  • 181st overall

I think that's right. MacGregor did a lot of damage in the second round a year ago (Pitlick, Marincin and Hamilton were all taken between 31 and 48th overall).

Today's trade (Mike Fisher to Nashville for picks, including the Preds first rounder) is only the second involving a 2011 first round pick, the other being dealt by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan in order to get Phil Kessel away from the remedial readers in Boston.

Ottawa's acquisition of a first rounder came at a pretty steep price: a quality 2-way center with another 2 years on his contract after this one. The Preds improve their center position for years to come at a good price, all for a first round pick. Nashville is flush with quality prospects and are one of the few teams that can probably afford to deal off their first round selection (well, Nashville and Toronto).

I'd like to see the Oilers grab a couple of those second round picks like they did a year ago. The club acquired Nashville's 2nd by sending Denis Grebeshkov away, and grabbed another 2nd rd pick from Carolina (originally a Senators pick) by sending Riley Nash to the Hurricanes at the draft.

Which roster players could garner a 2nd rd pick that high? Ladislav Smid? Andrew Cogliano? Linus Omark?

We wait. More bullets, please!

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#51 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 11 2011, 08:14AM
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Sandra Blood wrote:

I would trade Hemsky before Omark. Hemsky has more give a ways.

Weak

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#52 CurtisS
February 11 2011, 08:44AM
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What time is your show today LT?

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#53 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
February 11 2011, 09:29AM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Yes

How so?

The Bos/Tor pick is up for grabs, isn't it?

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#54 David S
February 11 2011, 09:47AM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

What was this article about?

Edit: And why isn't that guy looking at that chick in the last pic? What is wrong with him?

Overly long sideburns, fashion-forward glasses and lots of black - if you know what I mean. *wink*

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#55 Mr DeBakey
February 11 2011, 09:47AM
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Two 2nds, three 3rds, two 4ths, one 5th: Jones Vandermeer Foster Cogliano Gerber The Gritty Gilbert Fraser Reddox

Not necessarily in that order. Ideally.

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#56 VMR
February 11 2011, 10:11AM
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Lowetide wrote:

I don't think there's any way Omark gets dealt; included his name because Matty mentioned him in an article at the EJ on Feb 5.

Same article suggested some NHL teams may be calling about Smid, thinking the young D might need a change of scenery.

Anyone feel Smid is worth a pick in the 32-40 range?

I think both of these players are similar in what you'd want in exchange. A 2nd round pick isnt enough on it's own but with a prospect possibly. Have to be a pretty good prospect for Omark and at least decent for Smid. Cogliano could go for the same.

Personaly I keep Omark and Smid unless you get a very good offer, probably a first. More and more I'm thinking this will be a fairly quiet deadline for the Oil.

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#57 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
February 11 2011, 10:18AM
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2 yrs ago you may have gotten a 32-40 pick for Smid, he's shown he'll never be a top 4 defenceman during the last couple years here in Edmonton, we'd be lucky to get a fourth rounder for him now, he's probably even a throw in on a multi player deal this year. Leave it to Ladislav to bring a baseball bat to a gun fight(Avery)

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#58 madjam
February 11 2011, 10:26AM
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Ottawa could very well have 2 of 3 top picks this draft after the Fisher trade . Quite a difference from Oilers who gutted team just to get where we are . Who's the better for it going into next year ? Ottawa with still a decent core or Oilers with their so called core ?

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#59 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
February 11 2011, 10:35AM
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madjam wrote:

Ottawa could very well have 2 of 3 top picks this draft after the Fisher trade . Quite a difference from Oilers who gutted team just to get where we are . Who's the better for it going into next year ? Ottawa with still a decent core or Oilers with their so called core ?

That Predator pick will be in the 17 to 22 range as first rounders go, how do arrive at that 2 of the top 3?

There's likely only 2 or 3 kids that make the jump to the NHL in this summers entry draft, a vast majority are 1 and 2 years away from making it to the NHL. You're looking at one kid cutting his teeth in the NHL for the Sens next year, Larsson hardly qualifies as a core.

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#60 The Beaker
February 11 2011, 10:48AM
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@madjam

ummmmmm what?

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#61 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 11 2011, 11:31AM
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madjam wrote:

Ottawa could very well have 2 of 3 top picks this draft after the Fisher trade . Quite a difference from Oilers who gutted team just to get where we are . Who's the better for it going into next year ? Ottawa with still a decent core or Oilers with their so called core ?

Actually they can't have 2/3 picks after the Fisher trade.

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#62 Master Lok
February 11 2011, 12:31PM
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More bullets for Stu Macgregor is a good thing. (assuming the draft year is a decent one).

On the trading block: Fraser, Vandermeer, Strudwick, Jacques, Strudwick, Belle, Gerber.

I would look to trade any AHL defenseman not named Plante, maybe Chorney for more picks.

Even a 4th round pick, Stu can make useful or you could package several of 4th rounders together to move up a round.

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#63 madjam
February 11 2011, 01:39PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Actually they can't have 2/3 picks after the Fisher trade.

If Nashville were to fall down last part of season it would be possible . Unlikely , but possible .

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#64 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
February 11 2011, 02:41PM
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madjam wrote:

If Nashville were to fall down last part of season it would be possible . Unlikely , but possible .

Planet Earth travels at a rate of speed that surpasses 42000 mph circling around the Sun..... what is the likelihood that a few of us fall off?

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#65 mowglie
February 11 2011, 02:48PM
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If the oilers trade Hemsky, Omark and maybe Hall to LA i will have a new team to cheer for.

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#66 Team Couturier
February 11 2011, 03:00PM
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How's this for TD day LT and more bullets:

Hemmer - Bogosian type defensive prospect Cogs - 2nd rounder Brule - 2nd rounder Foster - 3rd rounder Smid - 2nd rounder Struds - gone in summer Fraser - minors Tom Gilbert - 2nd rounder

Draft a 1C in June, sign a UFA 4D, UFA 4C and 4W, re-sing Vandy as the new Struds and voila, next year:

Whitney Bogosian UFA Peckham Petry Minorleaguer Vandermeer

And up front looks like this: Hall Gags Eberle MP Couturier/RNH Omark Reddox Horc Penner JFJ UFA UFA Mac

Those are the balls out overhaul we need.

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#67 Woodguy
February 11 2011, 03:47PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I don't think there's any way Omark gets dealt; included his name because Matty mentioned him in an article at the EJ on Feb 5.

Same article suggested some NHL teams may be calling about Smid, thinking the young D might need a change of scenery.

Anyone feel Smid is worth a pick in the 32-40 range?

Anyone feel Smid is worth a pick in the 32-40 range?

Given the lack of sellers, premium on D at the deadline, number Dmen going down, and the fact that Smid is a cheap RFA a 2nd is reasonable.

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#68 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
February 11 2011, 10:56PM
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madjam wrote:

If Nashville were to fall down last part of season it would be possible . Unlikely , but possible .

You bring it to a whole new level everyday Madjam.

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#69 oilerbill
February 12 2011, 12:18AM
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I agree that Omark should stay, least for another season to see how he develops. Cogs is not worth trading yet, he still has the makings of a servicable 2 way center. That is more than I can say for Gagner. I think we could get a low first or high second rounder for him.... maybe. As for getting a top five pick for Hemsky. Fat chance. The only team that would possibly be willing to trade that high of a pick for him would be Boston with TO's pick. Hemsky is injury prone. Maybe a low first and a prospect but any team that is that low in the standings to have a top five pick is not likely to see the upside of trading that pick for Hemmer.

Penner stays, try and sign him long term.

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#70 oilerbill
February 12 2011, 12:32AM
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As for Smid, they guy is still developing. He's only 25. He won't reach his full potential for probably another 2 years and then he is likey to be a reliable and physical 3-4 defencman for another 8 years after that. Don't forget he's 6'3 and 225. He plays with a bit of an edge. He needs a mentor. Someone solid and someone who can show him how to use that massive frame of his to run guys that dare come near our net.

For a team that everyone says is small and lacks toughness why do so many of you want to trade the only real "big" guys we have in Penner and Smid? For draft picks yet? I know you can draft size but we know what we have with these two and they are good enough to play on a winning team. You want to trade for draft picks trade the small guys that show some upside. Brule, Gagner, Jones (unless you can sign him cheap for 3+ years for a 3rd/4th line roll), even Reddox. Those guys are tradeable and will get you the draft picks you covet. Plus losing any of them will not hurt our team in the long run.

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