What Can You Draft With a Late First?

Chemmy
February 15 2011 07:57AM

Yesterday the Leafs moved out Kris Versteeg for Philadelphia's 2011 first and third round picks. My gut feeling is that this is a bad deal; Versteeg is on pace for about 50 points this season as a 24 year old and it's unlikely that someone available late in the first round will have that kind of impact. Couple that with the fact that Kris Versteeg will be an RFA when his contract expires and the likely offer sheet compensation being at least a first and a third and this move is puzzling.

So what exactly is a late first pick going to turn into? Here are the players drafted between 24th (Philly's first) and 40th (our 2nd plus a couple spots) from 2000 to 2006:

  • 2000: Steve Ott, Brian Sutherby, Martin Samuelsson, Justin Williams, Niklas Kronwall, Jeff Taffe, Tomas Kurka, Nick Schultz, Brad Winchester, Andy Hilbert, Tomas Kopecky, Kurtis Foster
  • 2001: Alexander Perezhogin, Jason Bacashihua, Jeff Woywitka, Adam Munro, David Steckel, Matthew Spiller, Derek Roy, Timofei Shishkanov, Mark Popovic, Kyle Wanvig, Duncan Milroy, Tim Jackman, Karel Pilar, Fedor Tyutin
  • 2002: Cam Ward, Jonas Johansson, Hannu Toivonen, Jim Slater, Jeff Deslauriers, Tobias Stephan, Jarret Stoll, Tim Brent, Josh Harding, Rob Globke
  • 2003: Anthony Stewart, Brian Boyle, Jeff Tambellini, Corey Perry, Patrick Eaves, Shawn Belle, Danny Richmond, Ryan Stone, Loui Eriksson, Vojtech Polak, Kevin Klein, Kamil Kreps, Tim Ramholt
  • 2004: Rob Schremp, Cory Schneider, Jeff Schultz, Mark Fistric, Mike Green, Dave Bolland, Chris Bourque, Justin Peters, Grant Lewis
  • 2005: Andrew Cogliano, Matt Pelech, Matt Niskanen, Steve Downie, Vladimir Mihalik, Brendan Mikkelson, James Neal, Ryan Stoa, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Taylor Chorney, Scott Jackson, Petr Kalus, Michael Sauer
  • 2006: Patrik Berglund, Ivan Vishnevskiy, Nick Foligno, Matthew Corrente, Tomas Kana, Michal Neuvirth, Jamie McGinn, Andreas Nodl

Players with no NHL games played have been omitted. Players in bold are players that could be an upgrade on Versteeg.

There were 96 slots for this list; 16 picks a season for 6 seasons. Only 78 names are on this list which means that a pick in this range has an 80% chance of playing an NHL game at all. Of those 80% about 12 guys (quick count) have played one or two NHL games before fading into obscurity so really you have about a 60% chance of getting an NHL regular out of this region of the draft, to say nothing about a young cost controlled 24 year old 20 goal guy.

Obviously there are some great players in there; Kronwall, Green, Perry, Neal, Eriksson. Let's hope Toronto drafts one of them instead of Grant Lewis or Timofei Shishkanov.

Rumors will be coming out all day about how Versteeg wasn't a good fit in Toronto. Maybe Brian Burke traded him because he wanted out or clashed with the dressing room. To be honest we'll never really know that and I don't put a lot of stock in stories that come out after a trade. Media markets have a way of suddenly finding out dirt on departing players that was never mentioned while the player was scoring for their team.

One thing of note: just because the Leafs acquired Versteeg for assets we now consider cheap (at the time giving up Stalberg and DiDomenico felt like a knife in the gut) doesn't mean that losing him for a return below market value is ok. Nashville gave up a better first for Mike Fisher who's older, costs more, isn't as good and who won't be an RFA at his contract expiry.

I, personally, thought Versteeg was a good young piece of a Leafs team that can't see itself competing before 2014 and I'm sad to see him go. As always the pressure is on Brian Burke to do something with these assets; the first, third, and Versteeg's cap space. I'm more worried about July 1st than ever.

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#1 Starving Student
February 15 2011, 08:27AM
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Oiler fan here, how is Andrew Cogliano a possible upgrade?

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#3 Rexall Robots
February 15 2011, 11:01AM
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I hope some kind of character issue was in play, otherwise this is a move that could actually set the Leafs back even futher (is it possible?). Dealing a 24-year old who is a proven 20-goal, 50-point producer for draft picks is a risky proposition. At best, the first rounder plays in Toronto during the 2012-2013 season.

Versteeg may never have become a first line player, but he was quite useful on the second or third line with a cap hit of just over $3 million.

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#4 416oil
February 15 2011, 11:31AM
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Very valid article, I was just wondering why this site gets so little comments compared to your PPP site? Is it just a matter of this one being newer, or do you guys just not really promote it because steve lansky has to post here

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February 15 2011, 10:55PM
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416oil wrote:

Very valid article, I was just wondering why this site gets so little comments compared to your PPP site? Is it just a matter of this one being newer, or do you guys just not really promote it because steve lansky has to post here

We've tried to promote it a lot but our regular readers really enjoy the SBN commenting system which is vastly superior to the one currently in place here right now.

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February 16 2011, 03:46AM
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Send us the third and you can have Cogliano!

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#8 CoryNewb
February 16 2011, 09:29AM
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HAY CHEMMY DON'T YOU GOIN AND FORGETTIN BOUT THAT THAR THIRD ROUNDER!!!

If the scouts can pull a couple decent drafts and the kids develope nicely, this trade could work out long term. But obviously right now, the leafs lose a body (that scores points NOW) and they have to probably bring a less talented player to fill the holes, and appear to have less depth.

Good post chemmy.

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