2013 DRAFT (PRE-EARLY EDITION)

Lowetide
December 08 2012 04:39PM

On June 29, 2013, in the swamps of New Jersey, Edmonton will finally get back a player in the Andrew Cogliano trade. The 2013 entry draft could include a lottery selection, depending on if/when the season is played and the Oilers final position. Are there some worthwhile names to add to the cluster of selections that began in 2010 with Taylor Hall? Damn straight. 

THE LOWETIDE "EARLY TOP 10"

I always do a final top 30 and now is about the time I get out the slide rule and begin ciphering. My list owes much to Gabriel Desjardins' NHLE and always pushes those who possess a wide range of skills above one dimensional types. I usually have one or two players at the end of the season who are considered 'wonky' or 'strange' picks so would encourage you to pursue the Redline, ISS, Corey Pronman and Bob McKenzie lists for a more realistic view about how its all going to break down.

  1. D Seth Jones, Portland (WHL). 28, 7-17-24 +25 21pims. Crazy size for a teenager (6.04, 206) and he's an outstanding defensive player at the junior level. The total package, size, can skate, exceptional defender with a wingspan that Boeing would envy.  A little light on the offense early (NHLE: 82, 6-15-21) but his PP numbers (1-6-7) suggest the Winterhawks feel he has some ability there (Derrick Pouliot is the club's top powerplay option on defense). He appears to be paired with Tyler Wotherspoon most often.
  2. C Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax (QMJHL). 28, 22-26-48 +27 33pims. The most famous prospect in this year's draft, MacKinnon combines speed and skill along with what scouts have termed tremendous determination. His size (5.11, 179) is a little bit of a concern based on his style of play, and his NHLE (82, 18-21-39) is not the strongest number in the draft. Still, he's clearly a 5-tool center with all kinds of good arrows based on scouting reports and could very well be a franchise player.
  3. C Sean Monahan, Ottawa (OHL). 24, 12-24-36 -3 8. I really like this player's scouting report. Quoting the pre-season Button prose: Sean is a very well rounded player who has versatility in his game and can play multiple positions and situations and do it extremely well. His skills may not be flashy but they are very good with a mind that is exceptional. His skating is very good but what he does so well is change speeds and keep opponents off balance. He is quick and very difficult to knock away. He recognizes opportunities very quickly and is able to take full advantage of them. Call him 'opportunistic' if you will, but he finds a way to be productive. He has a very good touch around the net, his shot is accurate and he is deceptive in his approach. He can play on the wing and he can play a defensive role, but the beauty of Sean is that he understands what is required of the various positions and roles and doesn't necessarily need to score to contribute to winning. A very balanced player who performs when it counts. That's always going to be my favorite player, a guy with a range of skills. His size (6.02, 193) and NHLE (82, 12-25-37) make him an intriguing player when mulling MacKinnon. 
  4. C Sasha Barkov, Tappara (SM-Liiga). 30, 14-14-28 +8 4. 6.02, 205 and a tremendous offensive talent (his NHLE: 20-21-41). Barkov is an interesting player for the Oilers--he has size, is a good skater and is very skilled--McKenzie compared him in style to Dale Hawerchuk. He looks like he has some power to his game, too.
  5. C Elias Lindholm, Brynas (SEL). 30, 5-13-18 -3 2. Center plays in a pro league and has a reputation for having a complete player's skills. Craig Button: His game is founded on an intelligence and understanding that is exceptional. He's capable of adapting to any situation with the ability to make the right play regardless of the challenge. They call these types of players 'a coach's dream.' He is a very good skater who is quick and agile and combined with his IQ, it makes him a very difficult player to play against and try to get an advantage on.His NHLE (82, 11-27-38) is outstanding.
  6. L Jonathan Drouin, Halifax (QMJHL). 22, 15-28-43 +20 14pims. Drouin is ripping up the draft lists, to the point were Redline Report has him #2 (and ahead of MacKinnon). His NHLE is the best of the top end skill guys (82, 16-29-45) and Redline gushed about him in November: has every conceivable elite offensive tool, has grown to an adequate 5-11, 182 pounds, and can elevate the play of those around him better than anyone else in this year's class. Combine that with his advanced positional game, unreal hands and big-game mentality, and you have a pretty impressive package.
  7. L Hunter Shinkaruk, Medicine Hat (WHL). 28, 19-24-43 +3 12pims. A very slow start (12, 6-6-12) has given way to a strong performance in the last several weeks (16, 13-18-31) and his PP numbers (28, 6-10-16) tell us he's doing very well at even strength. NHLE: 82, 17-21-38. The Scouting Report says "has the best set of hands in tight since Jordan Eberle roamed these parts" and Oiler fans know that's high praise.
  8. D Ryan Pulock, Brandon (WHL). 25, 9-17-26 +13 12pims. Right handed defender with nice size (6.01, 211), Pulock has been turning heads for awhile now. His NHLE (82, 9-17-26) suggests his drafting team is going to get a solid powerplay performer (25, 4-9-13) with a booming shot from the point. The Scouting Report: Pulock is a reliable defender who is good in all 3 zones and a positionally sound player who seems to be continually refining his defensive tendencies to adjust to the game. His skills with the puck are solid and his NHL caliber slap shot is obviously a huge asset for him on the powerplay. While Pulock is not overly physical, he anticipates the play well and uses his body to separate the man from the puck at the right opportunities. As a solid defender with the offensive skills he possesses, Pulock has the type of top pairing potential NHL teams are looking for.
  9. R Anthony Mantha, Val D'or (QMJHL). 30, 25-20-45 +12 37 Big winger with terrific skill is trending. Redline: The big winger is just busting out all over the place. With good skating ability, plus great size and scoring touch, he's one of our fastest risers. NHLE is 82, 19-15-34 and at 6.03, 200 in his last 20 games, he is 18-10-28. 
  10. D Josh Morrissey, Prince Albert (WHL). 31, 8-16-24 +12 37. At 6.0, 185, Morrissey is just average in size but gets a lot of attention because he's such an outstanding skater. Expert puck mover, quality passer, he'll need to work on playing a more aggressive defensive style but the tools are there. Plays in all three disciplines, scored 4 goals at evens, 3 on the powerplay and 1 shorthanded so far this season. His PP totals (31, 3-10-13) should be ridiculous by season's end.

A reminder, that's my list and it favors more complete player types and forwards usually do better on my list than others. Its early, though, plenty of time for change.

WHO SHOULD THE OILERS TAKE?

Seth Jones! I can only imagine what the Oilers would look like 5 years from now if the club added a stud like Jones, but the chances of Edmonton finishing 29th or 30th are not good (stop laughing. Stop it!).

I really like Monahan, Barkov and Pulock on this list, and it appears to me this is tracking as a deeper draft than a year ago. Curtis Lazar remains a player of interest and appear to be finding the range recently.

Miles to go.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

It's early, but with the world juniors around the corner this is a good time to get familiar with these names. From here through spring, we'll spend some time each week getting to know these talented young men. No matter the lockout, the business of hockey's renewal continues with these 17-year olds working to become this year's elite.

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#1 DSF
December 08 2012, 04:59PM
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If the OIlers don't get a big, strong centre in this draft, they will be in trouble until they trade one of the kids for one.

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#2 Bruce McCurdy
December 09 2012, 01:14PM
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Hey DSF, if Gagner & Wellwood are the same player, how come you love one of them and hate the other one?

Curious minds want to know.

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#3 John Chambers
December 08 2012, 08:23PM
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@DSF

Paajarvi and Gagner are AHL-level players, and Peter Holland is, in your opinion, a sure-fire top-6?

I'm not sure I trust your ability to read the market.

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#5 longbottom/P.Biglow
December 08 2012, 10:00PM
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DSF wrote:

Wellwod has been his equal at every step.

He's nothing special.

Please stick to something you might have a clue in. Every step of the way?? career: Wellwood: 450gp 86g 134a 220p 34pm Gagner: 366gp 77g 143a 220p 180pms

I am sorry numbers alone make Gagner a better player let alone heart.

Lets try something a little closer to reality like H. Sedin after 5 years in his career.

H Sedin after 5 years with the Canucks same amount of time Gagner has played in the NHL. H Sedin 400gp 62g 159A 221p 200pms

If my Numbers are correct on a vastly superier team and linemates H. Sedin scored what 1 single more point than Sam Gagner in 34 more games.

Now please if you are going to cherry pick players from the Canuck or former Canucks to compare Gagner too it goes both ways. Meaning niether you nor me knows what Sam Gagners ceiling is.

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#6 nofool6110
December 08 2012, 05:16PM
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@DSF

Seconded. Team BARKOV!

Also, keep the core together...

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#7 Archaeologuy
December 08 2012, 06:41PM
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DSF wrote:

If the OIlers don't get a big, strong centre in this draft, they will be in trouble until they trade one of the kids for one.

Not entirely sure I agree with this, but if a big strong center is the BPA whenever the Oilers draft then they should go for it.

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#8 Oilertown
December 08 2012, 08:52PM
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Ignore DSF please ppl if you havnt gotten it by now that he does not have a clue in hell what he is talking about you never will I'm afraid.

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#9 Oilertown
December 08 2012, 08:55PM
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Methinks DSF should start cheering for another sport cause he obviously does not know hockey.

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#10 RexLibris
December 08 2012, 11:25PM
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Shouldn't we be steering this conversation in a more realistic direction like: what assets will Feaster gain by trading down with Buffalo from 1st overall to 20th?

Leino, Vanek and a signed Lindy Ruff moustache comb?

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#11 The Oilers Shot Clock
December 09 2012, 12:32AM
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@David

We sort of do. Everyone who isn't a first overall or named Eberle or Shultz take a beating with our fan base, yet we over value them when we defend them to other fan bases. The happy medium between passion and logic doesn't exist. It's not supposed to.

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#12 David
December 08 2012, 04:52PM
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Does anyone else think NHLE is ridiculous? MacKinnon will destroy 39 points. Take it to the bank. I think Seth Jones looks fantastic but then again so did Eric Johnson. Defensemen scare me. I think Monahan would probably be the best fit for the Oilers. If the Oil are picking mid draft I would love for them to take Kerby Rychel. He would be most welcome in hour top 6 in a few short years.

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#13 DonDon
December 08 2012, 05:19PM
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Remind me what happens to the entry draft if there is no 2012-2013 NHL season. Where would the Oilers place?

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#14 DieHard
December 08 2012, 05:20PM
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DSF wrote:

If the OIlers don't get a big, strong centre in this draft, they will be in trouble until they trade one of the kids for one.

100% agree.

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#15 Muji
December 08 2012, 05:34PM
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DonDon wrote:

Remind me what happens to the entry draft if there is no 2012-2013 NHL season. Where would the Oilers place?

No one knows. But they would very likely have a draft lottery along the lines of the 2005 one. Since the Oilers have picked 1st the last three years (lol), they would have relatively low odds of winning the lottery.

Jason Gregor had a great post about it, complete with all of the teams' chances: http://oilersnation.com/2012/10/25/no-season-impacts-draft

A better question would be what would happen to the draft if the NHLPA decertified!

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#16 Archaeologuy
December 08 2012, 06:39PM
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I was really hoping that I wasnt going to be looking forward to next season by Christmas again. Sigh.

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#17 John Chambers
December 08 2012, 06:46PM
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LT - in most drafts there is usually one player or perhaps a couple with 1st selection potential, and only 5 or 6 who could go top-3.

Would you suggest that there are 4 or 5 top pick candidates at this point, and 7 or 8 who could be runners up or top-3?

From my armchair estimation it appears to be a deep draft.

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#18 John Chambers
December 08 2012, 06:49PM
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@Archaeologuy

My hunch on the "big trade" the Oil could make upon seasons resumption is Ryan Getzlaf. If that were the case I would opt for one of these talented defenders.

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#19 DSF
December 08 2012, 06:53PM
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John Chambers wrote:

My hunch on the "big trade" the Oil could make upon seasons resumption is Ryan Getzlaf. If that were the case I would opt for one of these talented defenders.

Who would the Ducks want in return?

They need scoring wingers.

Choose carefully.

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#20 DSF
December 08 2012, 06:57PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Not entirely sure I agree with this, but if a big strong center is the BPA whenever the Oilers draft then they should go for it.

BPA is always a matter of opinion.

If it's close...take the centre.

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#22 The Oilers Shot Clock
December 08 2012, 07:16PM
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Who isn't on board with a center? With a few good ones in the top ten I'm sure there will be an opportunity to draft BPA and draft for need in round one. Not too worried. It's round two and three that scares me and who doesn't think there might be another hailmary thrown in possibly both these rounds for another over hyped fighter.As far as the draft goes, in the last 3-4 years, Lucic was the worst thing that ever happened. Everyone thinks they are getting one. A true fighter that can score 30+ is as rare as the "generational talents". I can live with taking the BPA left of the position the team needs. Moroz was neither. That can't happen again.

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#23 Archaeologuy
December 08 2012, 07:17PM
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DSF wrote:

BPA is always a matter of opinion.

If it's close...take the centre.

I also agree with this. *lets mind wander to the Seguin/Hall debate*

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#24 DSF
December 08 2012, 07:19PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I also agree with this. *lets mind wander to the Seguin/Hall debate*

Seguin.

Should have happened.

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#25 WHL FAN
December 08 2012, 07:25PM
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HUNTER SHINKARUK IS AN BELIEVIBLE SKATER AND FINISHER...GO OIL

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#26 The Oilers Shot Clock
December 08 2012, 07:31PM
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DSF wrote:

Seguin.

Should have happened.

Still too early for absolutes. I reckon us oiler fans will regret not making that deal with Boston more than they will regret taking Hall. There was a deal to be made there and they simply kicked the tires.

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#27 John Chambers
December 08 2012, 07:35PM
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@DSF

Okay it'll play. Why not.

If you accept that the Ducks will field trade offers for Getzlaf or Perry if either (or both) aren't eager to re-sign, I contend that the Oilers can offer a better package of players than most teams.

If I'm Tambi-cakes, I think I offer a package of Gagner, Klefbom, and Anaheim's 2nd, on the agreement that Getzlaf will sign, or do a sign and trade. Perhaps Paajarvi would be added in or substituted for the pick, but that's where I stop. For the Ducks they get a point-producing C, a good D prospect to make up for those they've lost :), and a nugget or two to balance the scales. Only a fool would trade one of our core-4 for a player on a downward arc.

Perhaps in all your wisdom you could dream up a better offer that another one of the 29 clubs could muster up for sir Getzlaf, but until you convince me I say my proposed deal passes the sniff test.

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#28 DSF
December 08 2012, 07:41PM
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@John Chambers

Gagner has no value to the Ducks....at all.

The Ducks already have a better player in Peter Holland on the way.

Perhaps Klefbom might be of interest but he's is out for the season for surgery.

Paajarvi is nothing more than a throw in.

There are many, many teams that could beat that offer.

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#29 The Oilers Shot Clock
December 08 2012, 07:46PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Okay it'll play. Why not.

If you accept that the Ducks will field trade offers for Getzlaf or Perry if either (or both) aren't eager to re-sign, I contend that the Oilers can offer a better package of players than most teams.

If I'm Tambi-cakes, I think I offer a package of Gagner, Klefbom, and Anaheim's 2nd, on the agreement that Getzlaf will sign, or do a sign and trade. Perhaps Paajarvi would be added in or substituted for the pick, but that's where I stop. For the Ducks they get a point-producing C, a good D prospect to make up for those they've lost :), and a nugget or two to balance the scales. Only a fool would trade one of our core-4 for a player on a downward arc.

Perhaps in all your wisdom you could dream up a better offer that another one of the 29 clubs could muster up for sir Getzlaf, but until you convince me I say my proposed deal passes the sniff test.

I can agree with you that a trade made would need to be based in EDM offering a defenseman and a good draft pick as the nucleus to make it worth it. But if the filler is ganger and or MPS then I'm not so sure it gets done. I don't know if Anaheim would be too keen to reunite the magic that was ganger and cogliano. As far as Paajarvi goes, I would suspect Harti has more trade value at this point.

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#30 John Chambers
December 08 2012, 08:04PM
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@DSF

Well needless to say there are 29 other teams who 'could' make a better offer, but are there any teams who 'will'?

Regardless of whether the Islanders would trade Neato Nightrider or Ryan Strome, or Columbus would trade Ryan Muray, Getzlaf won't re-sign there. Many team's will lack cap space. Calgary won't trade Baertschi.

Again, the goal isnt to construct equal value for Getzlaf, but to come up with the BEST bid given Anaheim's weak negotiating position.

You're more than welcome to suggest an alternate proposal that would be more attractive to Bob Murray, however I do recognize that you may be adverse to putting out an idea that would be subject to debate / criticism. I'll be gentle.

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#31 Rocknrolla
December 08 2012, 08:04PM
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What is the cogliano pick? Was it a second rounder?

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#32 John Chambers
December 08 2012, 08:11PM
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@The Oilers Shot Clock

The guy has just over 6 months left on his contract. The Ducks are re-building. Do you remember the return Atl got for Kovalchuk? Gagner and Klefbom are a heckuva lot better pedigreed than Nic Bergfors and Cormier.

Again, you're welcome to construct a better deal.

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#33 DSF
December 08 2012, 08:11PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Well needless to say there are 29 other teams who 'could' make a better offer, but are there any teams who 'will'?

Regardless of whether the Islanders would trade Neato Nightrider or Ryan Strome, or Columbus would trade Ryan Muray, Getzlaf won't re-sign there. Many team's will lack cap space. Calgary won't trade Baertschi.

Again, the goal isnt to construct equal value for Getzlaf, but to come up with the BEST bid given Anaheim's weak negotiating position.

You're more than welcome to suggest an alternate proposal that would be more attractive to Bob Murray, however I do recognize that you may be adverse to putting out an idea that would be subject to debate / criticism. I'll be gentle.

You're more than welcome to come up with a deal that would get a top 20 centre out of Anaheim.

A package of 3 AHL level players won't get it done.

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#34 DSF
December 08 2012, 08:30PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Paajarvi and Gagner are AHL-level players, and Peter Holland is, in your opinion, a sure-fire top-6?

I'm not sure I trust your ability to read the market.

Paajarvi is barely an AHL player at this point.

Despite a 2 point night tonight, he is on pace for a 12 goal season.

Gagner can be replaced for half the cost by a player like Kyle Wellwood.

There is NO value there.

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#35 DSF
December 08 2012, 08:41PM
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I think you secretly like Gagner. Seriously. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Methinks you are wrong.

Gagner is NOT Doug Gilmour.

He IS Kyle Wellwood.

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#36 The Oilers Shot Clock
December 08 2012, 08:59PM
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@John Chambers

I wouldn't trade for Getzlaf. Not a fan. We need a Ruskie center to help Yak adjust. Anisimov would be perfect.

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#37 Oilertown
December 08 2012, 09:01PM
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The Oilers Shot Clock wrote:

I wouldn't trade for Getzlaf. Not a fan. We need a Ruskie center to help Yak adjust. Anisimov would be perfect.

Quite agree never had any use for Getzlaugh highly overated he has no wheels.

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#38 David S
December 08 2012, 09:17PM
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DSF wrote:

Methinks you are wrong.

Gagner is NOT Doug Gilmour.

He IS Kyle Wellwood.

He'd be Kyle Wellood if he were seven years older. Gagner played properly with complimentary linemates (i.e. guys who can take a pass and finish) gets you 25 goals and 60 points. That's easily worth the salary he's getting.

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#39 DSF
December 08 2012, 09:23PM
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David S wrote:

He'd be Kyle Wellood if he were seven years older. Gagner played properly with complimentary linemates (i.e. guys who can take a pass and finish) gets you 25 goals and 60 points. That's easily worth the salary he's getting.

Wellwod has been his equal at every step.

He's nothing special.

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#40 The Oilers Shot Clock
December 08 2012, 09:27PM
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@David S

If he can put up 45-55 points a year, win face offs, and play tougher minutes he's a winner. He's still young, and in the end he might be Horcoffs replacement. The points are already there. He just needs time. A top 6 role might not be in his future. He doesn't need to be a Gilmour. I'd settle for a MacT.

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#41 Oilertown
December 08 2012, 10:36PM
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Thanks for the numbers to back up my point longbottom again DSF does not know anything about hockey.

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#42 RexLibris
December 08 2012, 11:19PM
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Instead of trying to trade for Getzlaf why not trade some spare prospects to whatever team gets that #6 to #8 pick in the total entry draft (due to the season being cancelled) and is in need of a more wholesale system restock to try and draft the next Getxlaf?

The Oilers need Getzlaf '06, not Getzlaf '12. We've been down that road of coveting other teams' stars and then getting them when the treads are bare. Now we've started building our own, so why not keep on with it?

The Oilers could go to a team drafting high but willing to take a number of prospects and our 1st and 2nd round picks for their 4th overall because they need depth more than a single potential player.

Then that player could be left to develop for two more years until ready at which time the Oilers could decide on Sam Gagner as a more developed player. If a trade is necessary his value by then is likely to be at the very least equal to what it is today, perhaps higher, and who can then be moved for picks and prospects to replace what was lost.

The players I'd covet for the Oilers in this draft are Monahan, Drouin, Barkov and Shinkaruk. I'm assuming that Jones and MacKinnon are off the table when it comes time to go to the podium, and that is after the required trade up the draft standings.

BTW, Kent found a good draft lottery predictor the other day. Try it out and see where we can expect the Oilers to pick. It isn't favourable. http://timgur.com/nhl/draft/index.php

I ran it ten times and the Oilers ended up with the 1st and 3rd once each. The other eight times they were below 17th overall.

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#43 RexLibris
December 08 2012, 11:22PM
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@longbottom/P.Biglow

I'm just guessing here, but based on what I've seen from Oil Change and other documentaries, I'd say Gagner's ceiling is probably around the average, 8ft. Unless he's making serious money in Austria and went to 12ft ceilings, but that's just ostentatious.

;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist. But I agree with your point, we don't know what his potential is and writing him off as either this or that now is preposterous.

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#44 David
December 08 2012, 11:57PM
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Seriously what is with the Gagner hate? If he was the exact same in every way but 6'2 no everyone would love him. And he doesn't even play small. Gagner is 23 years old! He has some pretty good arrows. I don't think he's hit his ceiling yet and we don't need him to be a number one center. If we trash on everyone who won't be as good as Doug Gilmore we'd hate almost every player!

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#45 Walter Sobchak
December 09 2012, 03:44AM
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DSF wrote:

If the OIlers don't get a big, strong centre in this draft, they will be in trouble until they trade one of the kids for one.

Prop this.

100% correct!

Draft the center, don't trade for the center.

Don't draft a defensemen, trade for a defensemen.

The Oilers need Size and skill in the middle, it has to happen.

The Oiler won’t be out of the lottery position and Barkov will be the best center in this year’s draft and could fall to the Oilers. The kid is NHL ready and playing against men and dominating.

As for trading for Getzlaf, why? Pass.

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#46 SiD
December 09 2012, 07:18AM
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Oilers need to rig the lottery! Bahaha.

I can't wait to read more on this years prospects

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#47 Sliderule
December 09 2012, 07:41AM
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The oilers have a lot of interest in Lindholm as MacT has been in Sweden to watch him. I don't think we should kid ourselves we will be in lottery and Lindholm will be in the area were we pick.

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#48 They're $hittie
December 09 2012, 09:17AM
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@DSF

Did I miss something,

a player who at any age has never accomplished what gagner has is better than him?

also why the hell would we trade for getzlafs rights. just stupid. He has won olympic gold and a stanley cup. He is going where he wants to. if edmonton appeals to him, he will go there if not than no need to trade for him.

Dont know the last time wellwood had an eight point night, or the last time gagner was placed on waivers.

DSF some times you are just plain stupid.

Last year when teams were talking to the oilers they wanted gagner. Ya he has no value.

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#49 michael
December 09 2012, 09:33AM
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John Chambers wrote:

My hunch on the "big trade" the Oil could make upon seasons resumption is Ryan Getzlaf. If that were the case I would opt for one of these talented defenders.

I put this same idea out a week ago and couldn't agree more with acquiring Ryan Geztlaf. Would Bruce Boudreau be able to fix whats going on in Anaheim? Corey Perry and Getzlaf are both Free Agents on July 1st. Is the price that we will pay in assets worth trading for Getzlaf if there is a 56 game season? Or do we wait and see what shakes out of the tree in the next few weeks with the NHLPA and the owners.

My one concern with making an offer to Anaheim is the repercussion of the JS signing this past summer. There might be still a bad taste in the mouths of the management in Anaheim.

I have not seen Barkov play and am looking forward to the WJHC's this Christmas. The quality of the competition is going to be to the nth degree. I look forward to seeing RNH playing against his peers. Yakupov continues to shine in the KHL.

I guess that is another reason I am tentative about a Getzlaf trade.Will he compliment Yakupov and Hemsky? Or would a trade for someone with more European flare be more appropriate?

MP is in my opinon on the road to be an NHL player. Not all European draft picks adjust to the NA game right away. I have no issue with Lander and MP playing in OKC for another season or two. Detriot has developed many of their current stars in the same manner.Patience.

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#50 DSF
December 09 2012, 10:48AM
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John Chambers wrote:

Paajarvi and Gagner are AHL-level players, and Peter Holland is, in your opinion, a sure-fire top-6?

I'm not sure I trust your ability to read the market.

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Paajarvi:

2011/12 - 34GP 7G 18A 25P .74PPG

2012/13 21GP 3G 12A 17P .80PPG

Holland:

2011/12 - 71GP 23G 23A 60P .85PPG

2012/13 - 22GP 10G 13A 23P 1.05PPG

An interesting comparison between these two players since they are the same age and taken in the same draft.

While there are no guarantees Holland's scoring will translate in the NHL, if I were betting on one of these players to be an impact player in the NHL I know which one I'd put my money on.

Do you think the Ducks would move heaven and earth to get Gagner when they have a player on pace for 39 goals and 85 points in the AHL on the way?

I don't.

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