PASSING TIME

Wanye
August 23 2012 04:36PM

WTF? No new articles on the Nation today? We will expertly stick handle this opportunity with a real think piece on just how far the Oilers have come economically with their signing yesterday of Taylor Hall. You may not have realized it but the Oilers are officially now a Have in a league of Haves and Have Nots. 

We are just iced out with swag up here aren't we Gucci Mane ft Souljaboy? BRRRR indeed.

OLD TESTAMENT

Oh so long ago - say like 1996 - the Oilers had some major obstacles in being a high impact team in the NHL. Rich US teams like the Rangers and the Coyotes (yes the Coyotes) were signing players left and right and guys like Bobby Holik were making $5 million a year to occasionally find the twine.

The Oilers had plenty of of a high calibre players in those days. Players might have cringed when they heard the news that they had been traded to Edmonton, but the likes of Billy Guerin, Doug Weight, Curtis Joseph and Co were waiting for them when they finally took to the ice. It might have been cold but there was a reasonably good chance you would find success in an Oilers jersey.

But high performing players had a shelf life in a City that was battling a low Canadian Dollar, tepid corporate support and an economy that was in tatters. The three aforementioned Oilers all played great and were forced out of town for economic reasons and have stated since they would have been happy to continue to stay in Edmonton had the team been able to pay. OilersNation hearts were routinely broken in those days as part of you always knew that your current hero was going to be on his way out of town to a larger market.

Unless your current hero was Brad Winchester. Then you had a different pile of problems.

MILDLY OLD TESTAMENT

Enter Daryl Katz.

We can recall when Shawn Horcoff signed his Titanic deal. At the time many of us were happy that the Oilers were finally able to fling a flatbed truck piled high with cash at someone who we would have traditionally lost to free agency. "It sends a message to the league" went the thinking at the time, "that the Oilers aren't the broke kid in class anymore."

No we certainly weren't that anymore. Offers were tendered to Thomas Vanek, Marian Hossa, Dany "I am a heartless bastard" Heatley who all passed on signing in good old our town for various reasons including "Edmonton sucks" "My (wife/mistress) doesn't want to shop there" and other nonsensical problems we all convinced ourselves were to blame.

In reality the Oilers were a crappy squadron (with a few bright spots) who couldn't offer players in the prime of their careers any real chance of winning in the forseeable future. But Katz was there not only agreeing to throw down wads of cash at these players' feet but also often being involved in the pitch himself - jetting around in the name of Edmonton.

And we did our part as fans too. It isn't easy ponying up $65 to watch Patrick O'Sullivan wrist a muffin into a goalie's crest and go sit down every other night but Oilers fans found a way to support the team regardless of the product on the ice. Sellouts every night they say - although some games we can't help but think a bill for 1500 tickets would show up the next morning at Katz's offices in order to keep the streak alive.

Bless his heart for finding a way to find a way.

It was at this point that Katz and the Oilers brass wisely decided that pitching woo at every UFA wasn't going to end well. It was time to draft kids and draft em early on in the draft so that when the Oil wave tens of millions of dollars in their 21 year old faces they can't help but say yes.

NEW TESTAMENT

2012. New heroes, fresh whispers of a return to awesome after so many years on the outside looking in. The Alberta economy is one of the strongest in North America, if not the world. A newly strong Canadian dollar trades on par with the American eliminating a massive forex advantage for the US teams.

And thankfully our heroes are here to stay as we have seen with Taylor Hall signing a trillion dollar long term extension yesterday. Jordan Eberle is soon to follow and the Nuge was reported as clapping with glee when he heard that Taylor Hall had signed for big bucks before being put down for an afternoon nap.

No longer do we need to worry about a few strong seasons leading to a one way ticket out of town for our local heroes. Sure some team may come along with a preposterous deal that may send a key piece of the puzzle out of town but the embarassment of riches that is the forward corps aged 18-23 can be preserved for years to come and a kick ass team built around it.

We may not all realize it but the market conditions and lineup have arrived that should set up the local squadron for years to come.

Taylor Hall is set to make 42 million. As an Oiler. And there are probably 3 more guys set to get similar deals in length and cash.

SOLID WORK ECONOMY AND DESTINY

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#2 book¡e
August 23 2012, 04:54PM
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Where's our Art Gallery Wanye?

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#3 yawto
August 23 2012, 06:29PM
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Don't worry Wanye, when the Oilers return to their former glory, DSF will point out how it still could have been done better by someone else.

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#4 D
August 23 2012, 05:55PM
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Man, how I wish Katz was the owner of the Edmonton Oilers say, starting in 1987-88.

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#5 DSF
August 23 2012, 09:32PM
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Thinker wrote:

Hall (6) nuge(6) eberle(6) Yakupov(6) gagner(4) hemsky(5) I see that for a future top 6. Not terrible value. I see the bottom six as the spot for value deals. But the max for each position should be as follows. 3 3 3 1 1 1 .5 Defence is 6 6 Smid(4) petry(4) 2.5 2.5 Plante (1) This is based on a 78 million cap, and takes us right to the limits. If the nhlpa can't find a way to get that much from the owners, then there is a proble. As you can see theres lots of room under this template to sign the kids, and go after quality UFAs. This is especially true if we can get value deals. Eg. Paajarvi or hartikainen playing 3lw for 1.5.

That's likely the most expensive top 6 in hockey...and not the best top 6.

Kopitar 6.8

Richards 5.7

Carter 5.2

Williams 3.5

Gagne 3.5

Brown 3.1

And don't forget, in your bottom 6 you still have Horcoff at 5.5

The gift that just keeps on giving.

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#6 freeze
August 23 2012, 04:51PM
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No MS Paint pictures?! Nerd camp changed you!

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#7 Dog Train
August 23 2012, 05:10PM
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As tough as these past few seasons have been to watch, there has definitely been worse times to be a fan of the Edmonton Oilers. I can't wait to look back at these days and laugh when we start making the playoffs and doing some serious damage. GO OILERS GO!!

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#8 The Beaker
August 24 2012, 08:50AM
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Mumbai Max wrote:

you forgot michael nylander on the anti edmonton villian list

Nylander should probably replace Vanek. Vanek actually did sign here, his team just wouldnt let him go. So unless the Sabres just said "we're matching because we hate those cold as hell canadian buggers!" and we can add the Sabres to the list too then Vanek wasnt so bad.

*I'd also like to note the Sabres did us a solid there.

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#9 Mark-LW
August 23 2012, 04:45PM
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Katz wasn't the owner for the Horcoff deal or the Vanek offer sheet.

right?

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#10 AutoOiler
August 23 2012, 04:50PM
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Wayne I love your tone.

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#11 Kyle
August 23 2012, 04:53PM
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I just realized something, in 20 or so years, this team could be ruled by Therman Merman with an iron fist.

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#12 justDOit
August 23 2012, 05:00PM
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Mark-LW wrote:

Katz wasn't the owner for the Horcoff deal or the Vanek offer sheet.

right?

I think Katz was waiting in the wings as owner-to-be when his buddy Horcs signed, but I could be wrong.

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#13 book¡e
August 23 2012, 05:03PM
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I don't think The Oilers Nation is mentally prepared for success.

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#14 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
August 23 2012, 05:59PM
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WHERE ARE THE STICKERS WANYE??

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#15 pelhem grenville
August 23 2012, 06:04PM
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AutoOiler wrote:

Wayne I love your tone.

who...?

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#16 Wax Man Riley
August 23 2012, 06:13PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

who...?

Wayne. You know.... buddies with Sam Gagne

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#17 ubermiguel
August 23 2012, 06:39PM
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justDOit wrote:

I think Katz was waiting in the wings as owner-to-be when his buddy Horcs signed, but I could be wrong.

Had to look it up:

2007 off-season = Vanek "deal"

June 18, 2008 = sale of the Edmonton Oilers was approved to Daryl Katz.

July 16, 2008 = Horcoff deal at six-years $33-million.

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#18 DSF
August 23 2012, 08:08PM
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yawto wrote:

Don't worry Wanye, when the Oilers return to their former glory, DSF will point out how it still could have been done better by someone else.

Don't worry Yawto, by the time the Oilers return to their former glory, it will be done by someone else.

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#19 bmac
August 23 2012, 08:32PM
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book¡e wrote:

I don't think The Oilers Nation is mentally prepared for success.

I'm scared too...

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#20 Wax Man Riley
August 23 2012, 08:54PM
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DSF wrote:

Don't worry Yawto, by the time the Oilers return to their former glory, it will be done by someone else.

Exaaaaaaactly. Tambo is a patsy.

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#21 Thinker
August 23 2012, 09:12PM
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Hall (6) nuge(6) eberle(6) Yakupov(6) gagner(4) hemsky(5) I see that for a future top 6. Not terrible value. I see the bottom six as the spot for value deals. But the max for each position should be as follows. 3 3 3 1 1 1 .5 Defence is 6 6 Smid(4) petry(4) 2.5 2.5 Plante (1) This is based on a 78 million cap, and takes us right to the limits. If the nhlpa can't find a way to get that much from the owners, then there is a proble. As you can see theres lots of room under this template to sign the kids, and go after quality UFAs. This is especially true if we can get value deals. Eg. Paajarvi or hartikainen playing 3lw for 1.5.

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#22 michael
August 23 2012, 09:38PM
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The Oilers will spend the better part of 36 million moving forward on there first 2 lines in the coming years.At an average of 6 million per player. I am not saying that 6 million will be on Hemsky or Gagne. But someone may come along in FA that the Oilers like that will be looking at that kind of money. Horcoff will be non issue by then and so will Bulin and Souray and guys like Eager and Whitney. Good freaking diety if Tambo gives Whitney another 5 million. I will have even more grey hair if he does that. Either way the new Arena will bring in the needed revenue for the team. At 18500 it should be able to pay the bills.We hope.

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#23 geoilersgist
August 23 2012, 09:40PM
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Two Wanye articles in a row. What a time to be alive.

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#24 DSF
August 23 2012, 09:42PM
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michael wrote:

The Oilers will spend the better part of 36 million moving forward on there first 2 lines in the coming years.At an average of 6 million per player. I am not saying that 6 million will be on Hemsky or Gagne. But someone may come along in FA that the Oilers like that will be looking at that kind of money. Horcoff will be non issue by then and so will Bulin and Souray and guys like Eager and Whitney. Good freaking diety if Tambo gives Whitney another 5 million. I will have even more grey hair if he does that. Either way the new Arena will bring in the needed revenue for the team. At 18500 it should be able to pay the bills.We hope.

Sorry Bud, you've got Horcoff for another 3 years.

If you're looking at 9 years out of the playoffs, you have a point.

Otherwise, not so much.

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#25 geoilersgist
August 23 2012, 09:55PM
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@DSF

We wont be paying Yakupov any real money at the same time as Horcoff so that point is moot.

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#26 Mumbai Max
August 23 2012, 11:08PM
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you forgot michael nylander on the anti edmonton villian list

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#27 dougtheslug
August 23 2012, 11:26PM
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DSF reminds me of Sacha Baron Cohen during the Borat years: no matter what the circumstance, he always shows up in costume and in character. But at the risk of rousing the ire of the uberTroll and the galaxy of ST haters, the strategy of the rebuild is slowly heaving into view: rather than breaking the bank on a mess of middling UFA's a la Wideman and Hudler, as a host of armshair GMs have been crying for, the Oil will shortly have signed a stable of superstars, at reasonably coinage, for the duration of their peak performing years, allowing their lesser lights to develop in the calm and well coached obscurity of the AHL. Go ahead, haters, tell me its not going according to plan.

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#28 Johe
August 23 2012, 11:49PM
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Let me ask you a question DSF: have you ever been loved?

;)

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#29 AndrewMK20
August 23 2012, 11:58PM
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@Mark-LW

Daryl Katz officially bought the team on July 2nd, 2008. Horcoff signed his deal 2 weeks later on July 16, 2008. Vanek's offer sheet was pre-Katz though as the offer sheet came in the summer of 2007 from Kevin Lowe and EIG.

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#30 Thinker
August 24 2012, 12:03AM
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@DSF

I know its expensive. I just wanted to show that we can afford to have all four, and still have good depth. By the time yak is signed, horcoff will be cheaper/gone, and hemsky will get a pay cut, or will be traded. keep in mind tho that la lucked out picking up all those guys on decent contracts, and that the players they signed themselves are probably overpaid. Also yak,eberle, nuge, and hall should all be ppg players, and at the very least, be in the 70 pt range. No other team in the league has that kind of firepower. Once they mature defensively, there will be little comparison between la's top four and edmontons.

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#31 AndrewMK20
August 24 2012, 12:11AM
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@DSF

Not entirely true because no one knows how high the ceiling is for Nail Yakupov. If he returns to the pre-injury form he was at in 2011 than I'd say he's much better than Williams, Gagne, and Brown, especially if you consider where all three of them are now in terms of ability. Hemsky is an overpay for sure and Gagner should only command that much if he is able to break the 50 point barrier consistently. Outside of Edmonton's top 4 kids I'd say the Oilers should take on the philosophy of look and see how some of their other youngsters develop and if they can occupy spots within the top 6. If Hartikainen can find consistency and take on a role much like Tomas Holmstrom than things change. Also Paajarvi has a ways to go yet, he's not exactly a finished product.

Also Hemsky is only signed for 2 more years. When RNH and Yapukov have to resign Hemsky will either be gone or you'd have to think that he'd be playing at a reduced salary. Otherwise Tambellini should really lose his job. At this point only 3 players will be signed when RNH's contract runs out. Only Hall is under contract at this point when Yakupov's contract runs out. Almost certainly RNH and Eberle are signed when Yakupov is signed. The Oilers are actually in a pretty flexible financially when it comes to keeping their elite young talent.

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#32 AndrewMK20
August 24 2012, 12:13AM
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Whoops. Cut the "in a" for the final sentence, makes no sense otherwise.

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#33 Butters
August 24 2012, 12:26AM
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I agree with Doug the Slug, everything is going accroding to plan. With 3 1st overall picks, it is probably working out better than expected.

Sure the Oilers backed in to the rebuild, but once it began, they avoided going after the quick fixes which led them to the cellar in the first place.

Also, I could be wrong, but the Oilers look like they are GMd by commitee. I don't think it is all Tambo.

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#34 Reg Dunlop
August 24 2012, 01:03AM
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@DSF

Ya, that top 6 that LA assembled is quite impressive. No doubt superior to the oil top 6 in 2012. It is so unfortunate for the kings that a lockout will negate any momentum generated by the cup win, and the Lakers adding Nash and Howard returns any news or interest in hockey to the very last page of the papers. The kings once again return to irrelevance. Much like the Blackhawks, last year was a one-off. And by the way, when the oil actually have to pay their top 6 thick cash, in about 3 years, it will be laughably superior to the kings top 6. Cheers and have a pleasant evening.

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#35 Truth
August 24 2012, 08:00AM
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Kyle wrote:

I just realized something, in 20 or so years, this team could be ruled by Therman Merman with an iron fist.

This is great.

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#36 madjam
August 24 2012, 08:53AM
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NEW PERSPECTIVE TO CONSIDER ? MacT.And TAMS apparantly are equals with neither one above or below the other . Every decision basically then has to go thru Lowe for his approval . In order to sign Hall long term , apparantly they upped their offer to $6M/per season . Eberle may/may not get same offer , and it will probably be longevity that dictates what type of offer he receives . Since MacT. has arrived things seem to be getting more positive with him sharing some of the load . Two heads better than one perhaps , as some change has been noticed since Mact. came back on the scene .

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#37 Will
August 24 2012, 09:08AM
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The last few seasons have been better than the previous few for the simple fact they were exciting to watch on a more regular basis.

Second, I think management is smart enough to plan how they're going to keep Hall, Nuge, Ebs, Yak, Schutlz, Smid, and others all under the cap. If they didn't they wouldn't be management.

Third, I really don't care how much these kids get of Katz's money, as long as there's some room to pay role players that will fill holes in our line-up.

Finally, and most importantly, Hockey better happen this year because our meteoric rise to the top of the contenders heap begins now. The rebuild is over and this contract signals that. Now we just need to put in some furniture and ours will be the biggest baddest house on the block!

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#38 pelhem grenville
August 24 2012, 09:30AM
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Will ...your take & my take on this contract being given now differ in that it isn't that the rebuild is over imo...it's the fear that these players through their agents have with the uncertainty that the new CBA has yet to unveil with regard to terms of deals ... hence the seven years he's inked ...maybe the new CBA only gives him 5 so...why not sign the longer term and get more mula....our clubs' bid to be a contender could be characterized better than "meteoric"...how'bout more like @ a snails' pace...perhaps tortoise-like?

one Hall signing does not a Cup contender make... ...yet

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#39 pelhem grenville
August 24 2012, 10:00AM
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...when can we expect the TRIFECTA of stories from our fearless leader...it's sloooow in here and he's so faaaast...!!!

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#40 geoilersgist
August 24 2012, 10:19AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...when can we expect the TRIFECTA of stories from our fearless leader...it's sloooow in here and he's so faaaast...!!!

Thats what she said

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#41 PaperDesigner
August 24 2012, 11:05AM
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Wanye, I have to give you some props. Normally I either skim or skip your articles, since your sense of humour really isn't my style, but this was actually a well-written, thoughtful little review of the past decade and a half of Oilers history. If you want to write more pieces like this, I'd be all for it. Of course, if you just want to scream like a girl at the thought of Jordan Eberle, well, who am I to deprive some of the fans on this site of that?

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#42 dawgtoy
August 24 2012, 12:08PM
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DSF wrote:

That's likely the most expensive top 6 in hockey...and not the best top 6.

Kopitar 6.8

Richards 5.7

Carter 5.2

Williams 3.5

Gagne 3.5

Brown 3.1

And don't forget, in your bottom 6 you still have Horcoff at 5.5

The gift that just keeps on giving.

Looks at the ages of the players you are comparing the kids to. Kopitar 27 , Richards 27, Carter 27, Williams 30, Gagne 32 and Brown 27. The defending Stanley cup champions in their prime! Compared to Hall 20, Eberle 22, Yak 18, Gagner 23, Hemsky 29 RNH 19. A group of talented youth on a 29th placed team on the verge of something special, but needing to grow and mature into the stars they will become.

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#43 mr_nihilism
August 24 2012, 12:46PM
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Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate wrote:

WHERE ARE THE STICKERS WANYE??

I agree entirely with this post.

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#44 Smyth94ever
August 24 2012, 04:06PM
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Great article and you articulated where we've been, where we're at and where we're going (FULL STEAM AHEAD, BTW!) most excellently! Like was said in 79-80 (when you were still just a vision in your parent's futures), "Stanley Cup within 5 years!" I'm saying it again now!

My only question is why don't you write articles more often? We need your "guy on the street" viewpoint more on the reg. OK? Thanks, WG!

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#45 Wax Man Riley
August 25 2012, 04:45PM
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DSF wrote:

Sorry Bud, you've got Horcoff for another 3 years.

If you're looking at 9 years out of the playoffs, you have a point.

Otherwise, not so much.

9 YEARS OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?

What? Are we living in Toronto?

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