GDB 43.0: OILERS NEED TO SHOW UP

Jason Gregor
April 19 2013 03:35PM

Pride. Heart. Determination. Guts. Dignity. Self-respect.

That is what the Oilers need to demonstrate tonight. They haven't shown any of that the past three games, and regardless of how many wins they produce in their final six games, they need to show their teammates, coaches and management that they care.

The players and the their fans didn't expect to be in this position again; playing meaningless games down the stretch with no energy or emotion.

Two weeks ago the Oilers found themselves in 8th place, albeit for only one day, but they were in the mix. Since then they've lost six straight, been outscored 22-7 and outshot 205-153.

On April 9th, after three tough losses to Vancouver, LA and Anaheim, I suggested that overall the Oilers hadn't shown much improvement from last season. Some of you agreed, and many didn't. At that time, like we all have earlier this season, I pointed out that the Oilers' ability to consistently get outshot was a major concern. On Monday new GM Craig MacTavish said the same thing. This is a major issue, and it has been one for the past three seasons.

The Oilers have been outshot in 32 of 42 games this season. They are 9-18-5 in games they've been outshot, while they are 7-1-2 in games where they've outshot their opponents. Of course they wouldn't pick up 16 of 20 points during every ten-game stretch just by outshooting the opposition, but it illustrates that they'd have more success and they are actually capable of firing more shots on goal.

The Oilers have missed the net on some glorious opportunities this year, but none of them are near the top in missed shots. Taylor Hall leads the Oilers with 40 missed shots, but that is only 68th in the NHL. Jordan Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (38) are tied for 80th.

There are exceptions of course, but usually teams that consistently outshot the opposition win. 

WESTERN CONFERENCE EASTERN CONFERENCE
           
Chicago 218   Pittsburgh 62  
Anaheim -19   Montreal 151  
Vancouver -18   Washington -186  
Los Angeles 241   Boston 140  
San Jose 112   Toronto -231  
St.Louis 154   Ottawa 14  
Minnesota 45   NYI 120  
Columbus -170   NYR 94  
Dallas -192   Winnigeg -25  
Detroit 68   New Jersey 211  

Five of the current 16 playoff teams have been outshot, Toronto, Washington and Columbus by a significant margin. New Jersey is an anomaly. They have the 3rd best SF/SA ratio in the league, yet they sit in 11th spot in the east because they simply can't score. The Devils are 30th in goals with only 97 in 43 games.

Many will tell you the Maple Leafs won't win a playoff series, unless the magically alter their game. They are probably correct.

The Oilers are 30th in SF/SA with a gaudy -248. It isn't just their SF, 27.0/game (26th in NHL), that is a concern, because they are 29th (32.9) in SA. They struggle equally in both ends of the rink.

Their struggles are a combination of many things. Nick Schultz said this about their defensive zone coverage earlier this week, "We still have too many guys not playing the system. Some guys are in the wrong spot, or they go to the wrong spot." Schultz is well-versed in knowing how to play a system, having played his first seven seasons in the NHL under Jacques Lemaire.

Lemaire was a stickler for detail, and according to Schultz he was an incredible teacher. He made sure guys played his system.

Are the Oilers too inexperienced, too stubborn or is their system too difficult? It is probably a combination of all three. Ralph Krueger's system demands places a lot of responsibility on the centres and defence, which is odd considering neither position is an area of strength.

However, it would be too easy to just blame the system. Too often I've seen players make bad passes or decisions in their own zone. They also have many young forwards who'd rather play offence than defence.

Yesterday on my show I asked Lindy Ruff his thoughts on who you fit your system to your players or vice versa.

"The players aren't all so good that they can play any system. You either adjust your system, or find players to play your way," Ruff said.

The Oilers can't change their system or their players at this juncture of the season, but they can at least show up and compete tonight.

LINEUP

At this point I'm not sure it matters who plays where or with who. Just play with desire, smarts and passion.

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Paajarvi-RNH-Eberle
Horcoff-Lander-Jones
Smyth-Smithson-Brown

Smid-Petry
N.Schultz-J.Schultz
Potter-Whitney/Fistric

Dubnyk

Teemu Hartikainen looked to be the odd man out during the morning skate. The coaches won't just give him a spot in the lineup, he has to earn it. I don't have a problem with that. It is clear this team lacks any sort of physical presence in their top-nine, and Hartikainen needs to recognize this. He also needs to control puck better in the neutral zone. He has some good elements to his game, but he doesn't show them consistently.

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  • Reports out of Boston suggest Milan Lucic might be a healthy scratch tonight, if they play the game. Combine that with Craig MacTavish's comments that the Oilers need to be bold this summer and instantly you have trade speculation. Lucic is exactly the type of player the Oilers need in their top-six, but is he worth a $6 million cap hit?

    Lucic's new three-year, $18 million deal starts next season. The Bruins have almost $59 million committed to 18 players next year, and that doesn't include Tuukka Rask, Jaromir Jagr and Nathan Horton. They will need to shed some salary, but will they move Lucic? Peter Chiarelli would likely get a huge return for the former 2006 2nd round pick.

    Lucic is having an average season with only 6 goals and 24 points, prorated to 48 points over 82 games. He's been a 27-goal, 62 point player the past two seasons, but Lucic brings more than just points. He's big, strong, mean and he's good enough to play in your top-six and protect his skilled linemates. He's okay defensively, and he's young; he'll turn 25 in June.

    What would it take to get him? Would the Oilers 1st rounder, possibly 4th or 5th pick, Magnus Paajarvi and David Musil do it? Would the Bruins want Nail Yakupov straight up. Would the Oilers even consider that?  I don't see them agreeing to Jordan Eberle because he has the same cap hit as Lucic. I'm not sure what it would take, but if, that is a big IF, Lucic is available you can bet Craig MacTavish will be talking to Chiarelli.
     
  • The injury bug is hitting the Blue Jackets at the worst time of the year. Matt Calvert has been great for them the last month, but he broke his finger in the first period last night. Artem Anisimov, Adrian Aucoin and Nikita Nikitin are also injured. The Blue Jackets are in 8th, but Dallas and Detroit are two points back with two games in hand and both teams have more regulation wins than the CBJ. I'm cheering for the underdog. I'd like to see the Jackets make the playoffs.
     
  • Lennart Petrell is likely done for the season. He had a walking boot on after Tuesday's loss and Krueger said he'll be out at least a week. I don't see any way he plays the final two games of the season. He might have played his last game as an Oiler.
     
  • What a great WHL game last night between the Edmonton Oil Kings and Calgary Hitmen. Calgary won 3-2 in OT despite being outshot 35-19. Chris Driedger was very good between the pipes for the Hitmen. Game two goes tonight at Rexall Place. If you can't go you can listen on TEAM 1260 or watch it on Shaw.
     
  • Good luck to the Spruce Grove Saints in the AJHL final. They need a win tonight in Brooks to force game 6 in Spruce Grove on Sunday night.
     
  • The Oilers currently hold the #7 pick in the draft, but Calgary, Tampa and Nashville are only one point behind them in the standings. Considering what Oilers fans have had to endure the past three seasons, I'm guessing most of you would like to see them play hard, but lose 4 or 5 of their final 6 games, to secure a higher pick. Many believed last season was the final time you'd have to cheer/feel that way, but it looks like have one more ELPH rallying cry.
     
  • Tomorrow night the Edmonton Rush play their biggest home game in franchise history. They currently sit in first place in the NLL west division. A win over Calgary guarantees them first place in the entire league and home field advantage throughout the playoffs. A loss, however, could drop them to 3rd in the west, if Washington wins. It will be a great game. If you can't go, you can watch it on Sportsnet. I'll be part of the broadcast crew, but don't worry we don't get much face time.

TONIGHT....

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers and Avs combine for 10 goals in an exciting end-to-end game. The Oilers prevail 6-4, and guarantee they won't finish last in the Northwest.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Taylor Hall ends his 6-game goal scoring drought by scoring twice. Hall was extremely frustrated after Tuesday's loss and he'll show why he'll be the next captain in Edmonton with an explosive three-point game.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers outshoot the Avalanche.  

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#1 mr_nihilism
April 19 2013, 12:04PM
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Can they? Will they? Oh, the suspense.

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#2 Sliderule
April 19 2013, 12:11PM
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The oilers man system of defensive coverage has been abandoned by most teams since the rules tightened up on clutching and grabing . An example was last game when Smyth chased Granlund out to blue line lost him there and then watched him walk into slot and score. There is a reason why most teams play a side overload and collapsing into slot zone coverage and oilers are proving it.

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#3 Harlie
April 19 2013, 12:13PM
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LFL!!!

Lose For Lottery

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#4 ItsTheBGB
April 19 2013, 12:20PM
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Lucic is a 25 goal scorer who can't skate and takes stupid penalties. His MAGICAL 30 goal season saw him score 5 empty net goals. FIVE EMPTY NET GOALS. He isn't a true 30 goal scorer and trading any of those suggested packages for him would just cement this organization in the cellar more than they already are. Sign Horton, sure, but trading for Lucic would be a mistake because of the return Boston would demand.

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#5 mr_nihilism
April 19 2013, 12:30PM
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I suppose if the Oilers keep to playing RK stupid system, there really is no hope.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2013/4/17/4230198/oilers-struggles-centre-systemic-slumps-ralph-malph

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#6 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
April 19 2013, 12:34PM
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Funny, your body absolutely cares if your mind isn't motivated. In some instances it's mind over matter, in others it's undeniable will.

Refuse to lose, gentlemen!

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#7 Rama Lama
April 19 2013, 12:38PM
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Jason you point out that we are being outshot most games. I for one think we are consistently being outcoached each and every game.

Exactly how is a players supposed to showcase his skills, if he is being consistently played 6 minutes a game.......as is the case with Harti. I'm not sure why RK has something against Harti, yes he has to earn his ice time, but is this guy ever going to get the same breaks as others? I understand that his game of keep-a-way has to accomplish something, but he is not been given the ice time to accomplish anything.

Hemsky, Gagner, Horcoff, cough up the puck all the time but you still see them out the next shift? Just like Mac T had his favourites, it seems RK has his and Harti is not one of them.

Based on what Lindy Ruff had to say yesterday on our show, I'm starting to suspect that the players have had enough of RK's motivational speeches.

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#8 Ducey
April 19 2013, 12:41PM
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I don't want Lucic. He is one of those guys that plays well when the mood strikes him. With $18 million coming, the mood likely won't strike him until three years from now.

This is an important must lose game. Calgary, Nashville and Carolina just a point back, with Calgary and Nashville still scheduled to play each other.

A top 4 pick and we can get Barkov!

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#9 HugThePost
April 19 2013, 12:49PM
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Gregor,

How much influence do you think MacT will have on Kruger re: day to day coaching decisions/ strategy?

It does seem that more and more evidence is popping up that Krueger might be part of the problem. I know it is kind of ironic hinting at wanting MacT to coach again given how much fans wanted him out of here at the end of his head coach run here, but I think he did a great job and squeezing everything he could out of the players he was given when he was coach. I just don't see that in Krueger so far.

Also, I agree with you; if Lucic is available, Mact should chat with Chiarrelli. I'd only take him if the price was reasonable. Seeing as it will likely be very steep......pass. Huge money changes players and their want and desire. Lucic would be nice, but I would not give up the farm for him.

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#10 Dave
April 19 2013, 12:51PM
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Are there any comments from actual coaches and former NHL hockey players about RK 's system . Is this the problem ? A link would be helpful. Thanks

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#11 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 19 2013, 12:59PM
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The mirage of the teams outpacing their shooting would typically be balanced over the course of a full season. Toronto is being blessed right now by the shortness of the season, the Devils are getting the shaft.

"Would the Bruins want Nail Yakupov straight up"

Please, for the love of God, Stop trying to trade Yakupov. This probably the most asinine point of conjecture related to the Oilers this year.

Lucic will never live up to Yakupov's potential. Never. Nor will Clarkson. These are all incredibly bad ideas in search of biceps.

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#12 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 19 2013, 01:01PM
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ItsTheBGB wrote:

Lucic is a 25 goal scorer who can't skate and takes stupid penalties. His MAGICAL 30 goal season saw him score 5 empty net goals. FIVE EMPTY NET GOALS. He isn't a true 30 goal scorer and trading any of those suggested packages for him would just cement this organization in the cellar more than they already are. Sign Horton, sure, but trading for Lucic would be a mistake because of the return Boston would demand.

Take that hit on Miller away and a lot of the mystique surrounding Lucic falls away.

He's a good player, with size and some hands. But he will never cover that contract's bet.

You need a Jamie Benn. A power forward with actual hands. Not Lucic.

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#13 Jasmine
April 19 2013, 01:20PM
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@Romulus' Apotheosis

No kidding. I don`t understand why Gregor hates Yakupov and wants him traded. This is unacceptable.

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#14 StHenriOilBomb
April 19 2013, 01:21PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Take that hit on Miller away and a lot of the mystique surrounding Lucic falls away.

He's a good player, with size and some hands. But he will never cover that contract's bet.

You need a Jamie Benn. A power forward with actual hands. Not Lucic.

I agree about Lucic,but the Oilers won't get Jamie Benn for less than Eberle+, and probably don't want him more than any of the three 1st overall picks...

I'd be happy with an Ebs+ for Benn trade. Even though I love Eberle.

I'd be happpier with a Gagner+ for (insert solid defensive centre with top 6 scoring). Even though I love Sam.

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#15 Oiler Al
April 19 2013, 01:26PM
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Not only are they being outshot [ most games], they are being out played, outhit and outchecked by the opposition night after night. Most games they scored on in the first couple minutes of the game... Shows me they are not prepared to play. YOu play how you practice.

I fault Krueger, for the way these players apply themselves..... Other than Hall, and Yakapov,now, most everyone else looks like they checked out . Matter a fact they have being playing many many flat games before this year end chase.

Also why not see what Hartikinen is made of, why in the world is Smyth and Horcoff on the ice.. get these hold horses to the barn and keep them there.

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#16 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 19 2013, 01:57PM
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StHenriOilBomb wrote:

I agree about Lucic,but the Oilers won't get Jamie Benn for less than Eberle+, and probably don't want him more than any of the three 1st overall picks...

I'd be happy with an Ebs+ for Benn trade. Even though I love Eberle.

I'd be happpier with a Gagner+ for (insert solid defensive centre with top 6 scoring). Even though I love Sam.

Oh. Benn's not going anywhere. completely agreed. Unless DAL implodes or someone overpays.

I only mention him... because he's a much better "standard" to set for the hockey conversations about what a power forward is going to look like for the next decade.

Hell, Hall and Tavares are much better standards.

Lucic is a guy that's going to float from 2nd to 3rd line, hit things and score modestly.

That's not good enough to dominate our collective hockey imagination.

Take away: Lucic receives way more attn. than he deserves. And the fact that the Oil are potentially chasing him as if he were much better than he is, is deeply worrying.

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#18 season not played
April 19 2013, 02:01PM
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I think it has become fairly obvious that this "team" has no intention of showing up for the rest of the season.

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#19 Jim
April 19 2013, 02:04PM
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Send all the Oilers to Gary Roberts for some training.

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#20 Quicksilver ballet
April 19 2013, 02:22PM
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MacTavish needs to step on Chiarellis throat if Lucic is coming this way. Bostons caught between a rock and a hard place. 6 mill per x3 for Lucic is redonkulous. Peter needs to move out a Lucic, much more so than Edmonton needs another 6 mill per yr player at this stage. Edmonton needs 1-2 help on the blueline before they address the thugonomics issue.

Craig needs to be very patient this summer and keep his options open for as long as possible. Alot of players we're all half expecting to be available, along with even a few you didn't think would be available. No bloody way would I offer up one of the kids just to do someone elses housekeeping. Paajarvi,Peckham and the first in 2014 tops.

NSOGDP, Oilers tally 15 goals over these next 6 games. They get them all this evening against the Avalanche. Best case scenario for the lotto lovers of ON.

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#21 Ducey
April 19 2013, 02:24PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Who said he was a 30 goal scorer? And goals are goals. He scored 26 last year and none were EN. Also, critiquing a guy cause he scored a few EN goals is a new level of over-analyzing.

Trading away a draft pick, who might pan out and Paajarvi and Musil will set this team back? Seriously? Because Musil, Paajarvi and the pick are that crucial to development of 4, 93, 14, 64 and 19? How so?

All of the top 4 or 5 guys in this draft are going to be better than Lucic. Its not even close.

Its like saying you would pick Lucic over Seguin if offered both by Boston (well you probably would, but its not the smart move).

Adding in MPS and Musil is just adding insult to injury.

As for the empty net goals, thats 16% of his goal total. It indicates he is unlikely to be able to duplicate it.

He is going to make $6 million a year for three years and is on pace for a 48 pt yr (pro-rated to 82 games). Given he is having problems with motivation on a good team, I wouldn't be offering the first pick for him.

Clarkson as a free agent is a better bet if you can get him for $4 million a year or so.

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#22 Taylor Gang
April 19 2013, 02:25PM
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There is no way Benn has more value than Eberle, at least not enough to give up a considerable asset.

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#23 tileguy
April 19 2013, 02:29PM
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Yak for Lucic, pfffft, who do you put that garbage out there?

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#24 Craig1981
April 19 2013, 02:33PM
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Does where the cap hiys not change everything with Lucic? At 6mill I wonder if anyone would want him. Is there really that much demand? I was wondering if their is a low cap if he might even be poised for a buyout. Am I that off on this possiblitiy? At 18 yak looks plays "big" on the ice.

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#25 Craig1981
April 19 2013, 02:34PM
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tileguy wrote:

Yak for Lucic, pfffft, who do you put that garbage out there?

I hate to insult anyone, but I agree. At this point yak looks like he could be one of the most physical high end guys we have

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#26 Rama Lama
April 19 2013, 02:56PM
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@Jasmine

Please stop bashing Gregor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#28 westcoastoil
April 19 2013, 02:58PM
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Interesting call on Harski, but handing playing time to someone who doesn't deserve it is not the way to improve this team. Wonder if there is something to his approach off the ice/at practice that is holding him back?

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#29 michael
April 19 2013, 03:02PM
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OGDP.5-4 loss. Oilers show up but sacrifice defense to get goals. Duchene 3 points. The train wreck continues. Go Flames go. I was cheering for NJ last nighty so that even if we do the unthinkable and win we would still be in the 7 hole. I still say we finish 25. Been saying it the season started.

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#30 wiseguy
April 19 2013, 03:19PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

Does where the cap hiys not change everything with Lucic? At 6mill I wonder if anyone would want him. Is there really that much demand? I was wondering if their is a low cap if he might even be poised for a buyout. Am I that off on this possiblitiy? At 18 yak looks plays "big" on the ice.

I liken Lucic to Hemsky. They both have value as players but their contracts lessen this value. If Boston has cap issues, would a Hemsky for Lucic deal actually not sound absurd? Boston gets more offence for a year, Hemsky and Krejci would like playing together, and th oilers take on a $13 million extra salary commitment off the books for the Bruins since there's only 1 year left on Hemsky's deal. Don't laugh, this may not seem as stupid as it sounds.

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#31 Ducey
April 19 2013, 03:19PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Please stop bashing Gregor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mrs. Gregor?

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#32 Dog Train
April 19 2013, 03:24PM
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I understand that Teemu has to earn his spot in the lineup but where is the accountability for the veteran players? I can't think of one good reason to have Mike Brown in the lineup tonight. Smyth was also brutal last game. I thought that Hartikainen actually played decent on Tuesday while most of the team laid an egg. It will be hard for him to develop any consistency if he isn't given a consistent opportunity to play.

Two teams looking towards next season. Our games against the Avs tend to be high scoring so I will say 5-3 Oilers tonight.

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#33 lolhockey
April 19 2013, 03:39PM
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Regarding the comment about Petrell potentially playing his last game as an Oiler - am I the only one that thinks Petrell should be re-signed?

This is not the first time I’ve read that Petrell is unlikely to be back next year or that Petrell is a terrible player. I’m not a stats guy, but by eye, he looks like a decent 4th liner. He’s got size, works hard, hits, blocks shots, is a good penalty killer and can score the rare goal. Most importantly, he’s a hard worker and consistent at it. He’s like a bigger Liam Reddox. Am I wrong? What am I not seeing?

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#34 bdiddy18
April 19 2013, 03:50PM
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LoSeth Jones tonight and the next week.

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#35 Walter Sobchak
April 19 2013, 03:59PM
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What's the point of winning anymore games? Secure the 3rd overall pick, take the big Fin.

Stop trading Yakupov for boat anchors.

Christ, this kid is the only one left trying, that tells you something.

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#36 Citizen David
April 19 2013, 04:03PM
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No no no no no no no no no no NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!! To trading Yakupov! I never want to hear trade Yakupov again!

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#37 Time Travelling Sean
April 19 2013, 04:03PM
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lolhockey wrote:

Regarding the comment about Petrell potentially playing his last game as an Oiler - am I the only one that thinks Petrell should be re-signed?

This is not the first time I’ve read that Petrell is unlikely to be back next year or that Petrell is a terrible player. I’m not a stats guy, but by eye, he looks like a decent 4th liner. He’s got size, works hard, hits, blocks shots, is a good penalty killer and can score the rare goal. Most importantly, he’s a hard worker and consistent at it. He’s like a bigger Liam Reddox. Am I wrong? What am I not seeing?

100% agree, I LOVE Petrell. He can be in my bottom six any day of the week.

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#38 Citizen David
April 19 2013, 04:05PM
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I think the best player for the Oilers to add at the draft would be Mackinnon for sure. If that happens, this teams offense will be unstoppable.

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#39 Quicksilver ballet
April 19 2013, 04:07PM
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tileguy wrote:

Yak for Lucic, pfffft, who do you put that garbage out there?

Just to pizz you off.

He appears to have succeeded.

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#40 tileguy
April 19 2013, 04:16PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Just to pizz you off.

He appears to have succeeded.

Why yes, yes he did.

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#41 Sterling Archer
April 19 2013, 04:23PM
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Trade Eberle++ for David Backes.

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#42 Ducey
April 19 2013, 04:30PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

100% agree, I LOVE Petrell. He can be in my bottom six any day of the week.

Maybe he can play for your men's league team. But he doesn't belong on the Oilers.

As Gregor correctly pointed out, the biggest problem the Oilers have is being outshot.

Here is the shot differential for bottom 5 guys on the Oilers:

VDV -16.7 Petrell -18.2 Belanger -19.4 Eager -28.3 Hordichuk -44.7

Do you see anyone good in there? Taylor Hall is at + 23.9.

Petrell has a puny 23 shots in 35 games. If they are going to improve they need someone who isn't just good at killing penalties.

They need a significant upgrade. Someone who can pass and shoot. Someone who can play 5 x 5 and ideally someone who can look out for the kids (and pick on someone elses).

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#43 Craig1981
April 19 2013, 04:35PM
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wiseguy wrote:

I liken Lucic to Hemsky. They both have value as players but their contracts lessen this value. If Boston has cap issues, would a Hemsky for Lucic deal actually not sound absurd? Boston gets more offence for a year, Hemsky and Krejci would like playing together, and th oilers take on a $13 million extra salary commitment off the books for the Bruins since there's only 1 year left on Hemsky's deal. Don't laugh, this may not seem as stupid as it sounds.

I don't think its entirely off, but the main hole in it is next season the bruins are in trouble with the cap. You would solve very little with that trade

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#44 Time Travelling Sean
April 19 2013, 04:39PM
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@Ducey

So you want a 4th line enforcer who excels at 5 on 5, can skate, and doesn't have cement hands. Any ideas?

Petrell hits, is an above average PKer and can chip in 5 on 5. Show me the SD for every teams 4th line.

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#45 Bucknuck
April 19 2013, 05:12PM
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I cannot believe the negative comments about Lucic on here. The guy is a beast, and he's had 60 points twice and he is 24. He has a stanley cup ring. Yeah his contract is huge, but so is he, and his type of player is RARE.

I would listen to any conversation that doesn't involve Schultz or Hall. Not sure if I would make the move, but you can't ignore his value as a player.

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#46 Fresh Mess
April 19 2013, 05:21PM
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I'm still not sure if Hartikainnen is an NHL player. Yet another player the ON posters have hyped up to ridiculous proportions. Next is Klefbom.

I would offer Gagner for Lucic. That's about it.

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#47 EHH Team
April 19 2013, 05:33PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

I cannot believe the negative comments about Lucic on here. The guy is a beast, and he's had 60 points twice and he is 24. He has a stanley cup ring. Yeah his contract is huge, but so is he, and his type of player is RARE.

I would listen to any conversation that doesn't involve Schultz or Hall. Not sure if I would make the move, but you can't ignore his value as a player.

If he is so wonderful, why is he a healthy scratch?

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#48 madjam
April 19 2013, 05:37PM
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Lucic to risky at 6.0 M .

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If he is so wonderful, why is he a healthy scratch?

Near as I can tell, it's because he is hitting too much and not shooting enough. The Boston papers can't figure it out. Near as I can tell his shooting percentage is taking a hit this year compared to previous years.

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#50 DSF
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Taylor Gang wrote:

There is no way Benn has more value than Eberle, at least not enough to give up a considerable asset.

This is hilarious.

Ederle can't play tough completion.

Benn IS tough competition.

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