Antoine Bibeau Backstops Val-D'or to QMJHL Championship

Justin Fisher
May 13 2014 08:44PM

Goalie prospects, especially those who come out of the QMJHL, can be pretty difficult to evaluate. 

For example, when the Leafs drafted Antoine Bibeau in the 6th round of the 2013 NHL Draft (his second year of eligibility), the reaction was pretty, uh, well I'm not sure if there was a reaction. As time passed, Bibeau's stat lines didn't strike anyone as "amazing", or even "good". In fact, when TLN put together its Leafs Prospects Midterm Rankings, Bibeau didn't even make our list of honourable mentions, let alone our top twenty list.

Haha, wow. Whoops. 

With a 40-save performance just minutes ago, Bibeau has led his Val-d'Or Foreurs to a QMJHL title. He's off to the Memorial Cup, where he'll face off against fellow Leafs prospects Matt Finn (Guelph) and Ryan Rupert (London). 

Not impressed yet? How does an MVP nod sound?

Anthony Mantha who?

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#1 @ammarhussain96
May 13 2014, 08:54PM
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See this is the weird thing about the Leafs scouting team.

They have done poorly in the first rounds when it comes to producing for the Leafs, like their best first round pick plays for the Boston Bruins...mean while Biggs and Gauthier aren't projected to do that well in the NHL.

meanwhile they've done well in the later rounds, like Reimer, Kulemin, Gunnarson, Brown.

Leafs are weird

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#2 PatrickConlin16
May 13 2014, 09:05PM
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Could he possibly be playing behind a really good team? I don't know much about the teams in the QMJHL, but it looks like he wasn't doing that good this season before he got traded to Val d'Or. Either that or his original team was pretty bad

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#3 WesternDP
May 13 2014, 09:22PM
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@ammarhussain96 wrote:

See this is the weird thing about the Leafs scouting team.

They have done poorly in the first rounds when it comes to producing for the Leafs, like their best first round pick plays for the Boston Bruins...mean while Biggs and Gauthier aren't projected to do that well in the NHL.

meanwhile they've done well in the later rounds, like Reimer, Kulemin, Gunnarson, Brown.

Leafs are weird

I think they are getting better over time.

Biggs isn't quite working out yet, but look at a guy like Devante Smith-Pelly from a year earlier. I am sure Anaheim is glad they did not give up on him.

Morgan Reilly seems like a good first round pick

It's way to early to be down on Frederik Gauthier. Guys from the same draft year like Jonathan Drouin (3rd overall) and Bo Horvat (9th) haven't played a game in the NHL either.

Develop players like Detroit, don't rush them like Luke Schenn. Give these guys, especially those taken later in the first round and later rounds, some time in the AHL to become professionals before snapping to judgement.

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#6 Jesse B
May 14 2014, 04:56AM
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Pretty interesting list of former Guy Lafleur champs:

2013–14 Antoine Bibeau Val-d'Or Foreurs 2012–13 Jonathan Drouin Halifax Mooseheads 2011–12 Charlie Coyle Saint John Sea Dogs 2010–11 Jonathan Huberdeau Saint John Sea Dogs 2009–10 Gabriel Bourque Moncton Wildcats 2008–09 Yannick Riendeau Drummondville Voltigeurs 2007–08 Claude Giroux Gatineau Olympiques 2006–07 Jonathan Bernier Lewiston Maineiacs 2005–06 Martin Karsums Moncton Wildcats 2004–05 Sidney Crosby Rimouski Océanic 2003–04 Maxime Talbot Gatineau Olympiques 2002–03 Maxime Talbot Hull Olympiques 2001–02 Danny Groulx Victoriaville Tigres 2000–01 Simon Gamache Val-d'Or Foreurs 1999–2000 Brad Richards Rimouski Océanic 1998–99 Mathieu Benoit Acadie–Bathurst Titan 1997–98 Jean-Pierre Dumont Val-d'Or Foreurs 1996–97 Christian Bronsard Hull Olympiques 1995–96 Jason Doig Granby Prédateurs 1994–95 Jose Theodore Hull Olympiques 1993–94 Eric Fichaud Chicoutimi Saguenéens 1992–93 Manny Fernandez Laval Titan 1991–92 Robert Guillet Verdun Collège Français 1990–91 Felix Potvin Chicoutimi Saguenéens 1989–90 Denis Chalifoux Laval Titan 1988–89 Donald Audette Laval Titan 1987–88 Marc Saumier Hull Olympiques 1986–87 Marc Saumier Longueuil Chevaliers 1985–86 Sylvain Cote & Luc Robitaille Hull Olympiques 1984–85 Claude Lemieux Verdun Junior Canadiens 1983–84 Mario Lemieux Laval Voisins 1982–83 Pat LaFontaine Verdun Juniors 1981–82 Michel Morissette Sherbrooke Castors 1980–81 Alain Lemieux Trois-Rivières Draveurs 1979–80 Dale Hawerchuk Cornwall Royals 1978–79 Jean-Francois Sauve Trois-Rivières Draveurs 1977–78 Richard David Trois-Rivières Draveurs

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#7 Jesse B
May 14 2014, 04:57AM
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2013–14 Antoine Bibeau Val-d'Or Foreurs

2012–13 Jonathan Drouin Halifax Mooseheads

2011–12 Charlie Coyle Saint John Sea Dogs

2010–11 Jonathan Huberdeau Saint John

2009–10 Gabriel Bourque Moncton Wildcats

2008–09 Yannick Riendeau Drummondville Voltigeurs

2007–08 Claude Giroux Gatineau Olympiques

2006–07 Jonathan Bernier Lewiston Maineiacs

2005–06 Martin Karsums Moncton Wildcats

2004–05 Sidney Crosby Rimouski Océanic

2003–04 Maxime Talbot Gatineau Olympiques

2002–03 Maxime Talbot Hull Olympiques

2001–02 Danny Groulx Victoriaville Tigres

2000–01 Simon Gamache Val-d'Or Foreurs

1999–2000 Brad Richards Rimouski Océanic

1998–99 Mathieu Benoit Acadie–Bathurst Titan

1997–98 Jean-Pierre Dumont Val-d'Or Foreurs

1996–97 Christian Bronsard Hull Olympiques

1995–96 Jason Doig Granby Prédateurs

1994–95 Jose Theodore Hull Olympiques

1993–94 Eric Fichaud Chicoutimi Saguenéens

1992–93 Manny Fernandez Laval Titan

1991–92 Robert Guillet Verdun Collège Français

1990–91 Felix Potvin Chicoutimi Saguenéens

1989–90 Denis Chalifoux Laval Titan

1988–89 Donald Audette Laval Titan

1987–88 Marc Saumier Hull Olympiques

1986–87 Marc Saumier Longueuil Chevaliers

1985–86 Sylvain Cote & Luc Robitaille Hull Olympiques

1984–85 Claude Lemieux Verdun Junior Canadiens

1983–84 Mario Lemieux Laval Voisins

1982–83 Pat LaFontaine Verdun Juniors

1981–82 Michel Morissette Sherbrooke Castors

1980–81 Alain Lemieux Trois-Rivières Draveurs

1979–80 Dale Hawerchuk Cornwall Royals

1978–79 Jean-Francois Sauve Trois-Rivières Draveurs

1977–78 Richard David Trois-Rivières Draveurs

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#8 Steve
May 14 2014, 07:58AM
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@ammarhussain96 wrote:

See this is the weird thing about the Leafs scouting team.

They have done poorly in the first rounds when it comes to producing for the Leafs, like their best first round pick plays for the Boston Bruins...mean while Biggs and Gauthier aren't projected to do that well in the NHL.

meanwhile they've done well in the later rounds, like Reimer, Kulemin, Gunnarson, Brown.

Leafs are weird

I think a lot to do with two separate reasons. The first being that any first round pick, regardless of whether it is a high or low pick, has incredible pressures to succeed immediately in the Toronto spotlight. The second reason is mainly that, with the Leaf's scouting system, you would assume that their bankroll allows them to thoroughly scout far more players and to a greater extent than other, "poorer" teams. Where there is typically a consensus "range" for high draft picks in the top 1-3 rounds (considering all the mock drafts), the Leafs are able to visit smaller markets and really get a read on project or risky players that get drafted in later rounds. Their scouting bankroll also lets them scout more European players, ala Kulemin and Gunnar or find guys like Gustavsson and Rynnas (although neither really worked out here). It's just too bad that the Leafs cannot get value out of high-draft picks due to the pressures with being drafted early by the Leafs. Although, at least that might explain why they like to trade for former first rounder busts like Ashton where the expectations here might be less. I'm just glad that, in a cap system, it appears that the Leafs are using their wealth in other areas.

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#9 Brian
May 14 2014, 09:49AM
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Justin Fisher wrote:

It's probably a bit of both. Charlottetown was a pretty bad team, and Val-d'Or was a very good team.

The way I see it, it's comforting that when Val-d'Or went out to look for a starting goaltender for their contending team, they saw a capable netminder in Bibeau, and didn't shy away from his stat line.

I know a guy who lives in Halifax and is a big Mooseheads fan. According to him, Bibeau was the biggest reason why Val-d'Or beat them and he basically stole the series.

I'm kind of curious how he could do that still giving up so many goals with a save percentage that looks average for NHL goalies... but for all I know that's actually well above average for the QMJHL.

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