Babcock and the Leafs

Ryan Fancey
July 24 2014 09:26AM

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If Mike Babcock makes it to next summer without a new contract from the Red Wings, the list of teams who would want to acquire his services could probably be the other 29. Realistically, there are likely only a few that would dish out the cash that Babcock is seeking. Of course a few million dollars is nothing for an NHL team to spend, or often times waste, but some teams are in more desperate need of a turn-around than others. 

Regarded as arguably the best coach on the planet, Babcock is set to make $2 million this upcoming season in Detroit - the last of his current deal - and what he's looking for beyond that is anyone's guess, but the Wings haven't hit that number yet, or he'd be locked up.

No doubt plenty of Leafs followers have been paying attention to the situation, since a) the Leafs currently have the worst coach in the league, and b) they have more money than anyone else. To replace Carlyle with Babcock would be like trading in your 1990 Chevy Lumina for a Ferrari with McDonald's coupons spilling out of the glove box. To be honest, I don't even know if Ferrari's have glove boxes.

Last week it was reported that Babcock will not negotiate with Detroit during the 2014-15 season. If a contract extension isn't done by September, it'll wait until next summer when this deal is expiring. Now, with Babcock set to make $2 million this upcoming season, he's probably looking for a raise to become the highest paid in the league. Right now, that title apparently belongs to Joel Quenneville in Chicago, but I couldn't find an exact figure. You'd be surprised how tough it is to dig up coaches' salaries.

Timing is important, and it should be noted that Quenneville is getting paid for delivering two Cups in the last five seasons, but I'd have a hard time believing Babcock won't become the highest paid in the league, especially if a handful of teams are knocking at the door. He hasn't won a Cup since 2008, but the Wings teams he's had since then pale in comparison to anything in Chicago, and he's been wisely chosen as the Canadian Olympic head coach twice, with both teams crushing everyone in their path to two gold medals.

To get back to the $2 million figure Babcock is set to make this upcoming season, this seems like somewhat of a cap figure for high-profile coaches from what I can gather (except for ol' Scrooge McDuck Quenneville). Vigneault in New York makes the same (a raise from his $1.8 per year in Vancouver), as did Bylsma in Pittsburgh, and Ron Wilson is actually believed to have signed for nearly that much when he announced his Christmas gift from Burke in 2010. No, really.

The Leafs (or Red Wings, or whoever) will likely have to go well beyond that to get Babcock, but this is where Toronto should be able to blow the doors off the league. 

Unfortunately up to this point, the Leafs have chosen to spend money on a front office that included guys like Dave Poulin and Claude "The capologist who put a basement team in overage penalty" Loiselle. Still, the point is, the Leafs are the richest team in hockey by a fair margin and can't flex a lot of  their financial strength on players in a hard-capped league, but they can pay whatever they want for coaches and management.

The Leafs scooped up Kyle Dubas from the Soo Greyhounds this week, a guy who is considered an up-and-comer and someone who could turn out to be a real force in the GM world. If Shanahan is serious about turning over this management group and continuing to add top-level personnel, Babcock is an obvious target. There's a little bit of history there too, with Babcock coaching Shanahan in 2006, where Shanahan put up 40 goals as a 37-year old.

When the Leafs pried Brian Burke away from Anaheim, it was for a six year deal worth $18 million. In the last year of Wilson's contract, where he didn't even coach, the team was paying Burke and Wilson nearly a combined $5 million on top of whatever the hell Randy Carlyle started making. It should be an easy decision to pay over the top for Babcock if he becomes available.

I guess the big question is whether this is something the Leafs are already thinking about. 

As sort of a continuation to what I wrote about Carlyle last week, it's plausible that Shanahan held on to Carlyle partly for this reason. The Leafs couldn't find his replacement immediately, so they're just keeping him around, bringing in new assistants, and possibly relinquishing some of his power. It probably wouldn't make sense to throw a new head coach in to the position right now, when you're looking to dump a truckload of money at Babcock one year down the road. If Babcock was locked in with Detroit beyond this upcoming season, Carlyle might be out of a job already.

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#1 leafer2013
July 24 2014, 11:38AM
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Sorry to break it to you folks but the leafs will never get Babcock. Babcock wants to join a winning team and winning players. And he will not want to work with players like Bozak and Clarkson. Nor have anything to do with potato Nonis.

Also Babcock is really not that elite super coach. He only won with stacked teams (Canada olympics) and Datsyuk, Lidstrom and zetterberg. That's sort of similar to Carlyle's success with stacked teams. And with average teams he is quite average. Not terrible like Carlyle but still not an "elite" coach

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#2 SCHURE SPORTS INC
July 24 2014, 12:20PM
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" since a) the Leafs currently have the worst coach in the league"

One bad season and he's the worst coach in the league. You all seem to be so baffled as to why he got extended, perhaps management felt like the players were a tiny bit responsible too?

I don't even know what else to say back to that, this site really does have zero respect sometimes.

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#3 Holy Mackinaw
July 24 2014, 12:28PM
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@leafer2013

Although a lot of things would have to fall in place for Babcock to join the leafs, I wouldn’t say that it would “never” happen. If it was all about coaching a winning team with winning players, then he would stay in Detroit. 2008 wasn’t that long and the Red Wings have made the playoffs every year under him, hardly a “losing” team. The two things that Toronto can offer, more so than anyone else, is money and glory…potentially. He already has a stacked resume, but turning the Maple Leafs into a constantly competitive team, and hockey gods willing, Stanley cup champions would be his crowning achievement. Hopefully that’s enticing enough to bring this “Good Canadian Kid” back home. Even if you don’t think he’s an “Elite” coach or even a good coach, you have to look at what he pulled off last year with an injured Redwings team that was basically dressing their AHL team for most of the season. Just watching 24/7 last year and seeing the stark contrast between him and Carlyle is enough for me.

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#4 Neil B
July 24 2014, 04:05PM
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In answer to the burning hockey question " To be honest, I don't even know if Ferrari's have glove boxes"; yes, yes they do. Some with laser-powered anti-radar devices in them. If you know the right people.

http://hurleysautoaudio.blogspot.ca/2012/07/ferrari-f430-with-escort-passport.html

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#5 Neil B
July 24 2014, 04:26PM
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SCHURE SPORTS INC wrote:

" since a) the Leafs currently have the worst coach in the league"

One bad season and he's the worst coach in the league. You all seem to be so baffled as to why he got extended, perhaps management felt like the players were a tiny bit responsible too?

I don't even know what else to say back to that, this site really does have zero respect sometimes.

Well, firstly, clearly this is hyperbole. There's no way Carlyle is the worst coach in hockey.

However, to your rebuttal, it's not one bad season. By any metric (advanced stats or win-loss ratios, and everything in between) Carlyle is declining in effectiveness as a coach, and has been since pretty much his Cup win. Some of that is due to admirable traits like loyalty; some to less advantageous ones, like a reluctance to adapt his work to fit the tools at hand.

With a different team, one more suited to his style of play, he would doubtless be more successful. But that's kind of the point. He doesn't have that team, he has this team. His job isn't to change the team, it's to find a way to get the pest performance out of what he has.

As to why he got extended--any team that is solvent will not let the coach play out his contract if they have the option. Look at the Babcock situation for the reason why. This could get ugly if he's not signed by September….

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