The 2014 TLN Top Twenty Leafs Prospects: Honourable Mentions

Justin Fisher
August 23 2014 10:04AM

Welcome to TLN’s 2014 Top Twenty Leafs Prospects feature, which we are kicking off today and will be running through the next few weeks. This year, Steve Dangle, Jeff Veillette, Bobby Cappucino, Jon Steitzer, Ryan Fancey, Dominik  Luszczyszyn, Steve Tzemis, Cam Charron, and Justin Fisher (yours truly) all voted on the Leafs’ top prospects. Every day, we will continue the countdown with a new prospect profile, breaking down who they are, where they play, and how far they’ll go.

To define what a prospect is, we set the limits at 65 career NHL games, or 24 years of age. You play your 66th career game or you turn 25? You’re out. You’re either too good or too bad a player to be considered.

We didn’t give our writers much in the way of ‘voting rules’. Skill level, potential, stats, and proximity to the NHL are all considered, but are not part of any rigid criteria for voting. To break a tie, we considered each player's’ heart and intangibles. Just kidding.

Without further delay, we kick off TLN’s 2014 Top Twenty Leafs Prospects feature with the honourable mentions. All of the players below appeared in at least one of our writers’ top twenty lists, and therefore get a special shoutout for being almost-worthy of their own article.

Sam Carrick

Kicking off our honourable mentions is Sam Carrick, 22, who stuck with the Marlies this past season after splitting time between the AHL and ECHL in 2012-13. In 62 games, the Markham, Ontario native score 14 goals and 35 points despite being used primarily in a bottom six, defensive role. Despite raising some eyebrows with an impressive playoff performance, in which Carrick scored nine points in 14 games, there isn’t a whole lot of upside here. At best, Carrick projects to be an NHL role player. Carrick only received votes from four of the nine participating TLN writers, but still managed to nearly crack the top twenty.

Brandon Kozun

Kozun is a fun player to watch. The 5’8 winger with speed to burn, Kozun provided the Marlies with a much-needed injection of offensive skill when he was acquired from the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Andrew Crescenzi back in January. That being said, Kozun only scored 46 points in 75 games this season - down from 56 points in 74 games in his previous season. There’s a lot to like, but who knows if he’ll ever be consistent enough offensively to get a shot with the (much) big(ger) boys. Kozun received the same amount of votes from our writers as Carrick did, placing him just outside our top twenty.

Antoine Bibeau

I don’t know if it’s fair to call Antoine Bibeau the Leafs’ goaltender of the future, but the 20-year old Val d’Or netminder certainly had a successful 2013-14 season. Traded from the Charlottetown Islanders to the Foreurs in December 2013, Bibeau went on to capture a QMJHL Championship, a Playoff MVP award, Memorial Cup Top Goaltender honours, and most importantly an NHL contract. Still, goalies are incredibly hard to project, and especially at such a young age. Bibeau garnered votes from seven of the nine participating TLN writers, but wasn’t ranked particularly high by anyone. If he performs well out of the gates, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bibeau as high as the early-to-mid teens by the time the midterms roll around.

Tyler Biggs

To say that Tyler Biggs had a rough season would be an understatement. Nine points in 57 games and too-often a healthy scratch, Biggs fell out of favour with a number of TLN writers. Last year we ranked Biggs ninth in the preseason, and 13th in the midterm. Six of us ranked him this time around, but not nearly high enough to put Biggs anywhere close to the consensus top twenty. The funny thing is, there’s a sense amongst some that Biggs could still reach the NHL regardless and carve out a career as a bottom line guy. Time will tell, but it wouldn’t be smart to put money on it.

The Rest

Christopher Gibson received a handful of low votes, likely more to do with his raw upside and less with a number of close viewings. The Finnish-born netminder suited up for only 12 AHL  and 20 ECHL games in 2013-14, and it’s anyone’s guess as to where he’ll get the his lion’s share of starts this season.

Brad Ross will return to the Marlies next season, looking to improve on a 53 game, 10 point campaign. The kid can agitate and play a physical game, but that offensive upside we saw in Junior appears to have been left there.

Ryan Rupert will either struggle to earn ice time with the Marlies this season, or return to the London Knights for his overage year. Either way, there just isn’t much that excited us about Rupert - he received only one vote. We won’t really know what kind of future Rupert has until we see him get a regular shift in the pros, so we’ll remain patient and just mention him honourably for now.

Eric Knodel, who received one vote from our writers, is entering his first full professional season after three years at the University of New Hampshire. He’ll will compete for ice time on a crowded Marlies blue line.

Recent draft picks John Piccinich (4th round, 2013) and Dakota Joshua (5th round, 2013) each received a vote as well.

If Piccinich lines up alongside Jack Eichel this season, we might be hearing a whole lot more about him. The offensive winger will suit up for the Boston University Terriers in 2014-15.

Dakota Joshua will return to USHL’s Sioux Falls Stampede for one more season to further develop his game before joining the Ohio State Buckeyes in 2015-16.

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Justin Fisher is a Toronto-based writer of sorts. He likes hockey and comic books and sriracha sauce. He doesn't like Don Cherry. Follow him on Twitter: @thejustinfisher
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#1 WesternDP
August 23 2014, 01:10PM
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This is always one of the most fun series of articles for the end of an lazy August...so credit you folks for putting this together.

However, I know I am going to disagree. Sam Carrick as an honorable mention?

This is my post from Jan 24, 2014 from the mid term rankings:

"I would put a bit more emphasis on success in the AHL and as an NHL call up, where a guy has that. Some of these other guys are so far from the NHL.

There is a major omission from the top 20...Sam Carrick. The guy has 18 points , +12 and 65 PIMs in 38 games in the AHL this year. He is only 5 points behind Greg McKegg with a much better plus/minus as McKegg is only plus one. Compare his 18 points and +12 with Biggs who only has 5 and -2...

He also gets timely goals: game winners and can score on the shootout. He had the overtime winner last week. Spott calls him one of his best players and has mentioned a future call up to the NHL. He is solid and nasty. He has the size to play in the NHL. At 21 he is 6.0’ 207 lbs and can fight. Think a Steve Ott at center or a slightly bigger Gregory Campbell. Carrick’s OHL numbers were solid 67 points in 68 games, +15 and 104 PIMs in his final year, so this is no fluke.

This is my list: #1 - Morgan Rielly #2 - Peter Holland #3 - Josh Leivo #4 - Stuart Percy #5 - Matt Finn #6 - Carter Ashton #7 - Jerry D'Amigo #8 - Petter Granberg #9 - Frederik Gauthier #10 - Connor Brown #11 - Greg McKegg #12 - Sam Carrick #13 - Carter Verhaeghe #14 - David Broll #15 - Garret Sparks #16 - Andreas Johnson #17 - Fabrice Herzog #18 - Tyler Biggs #19 - Andrew MacWilliam #20 - Tom Nilsson."

Putting Carrick as a honorable mention just doesn't make sense. During the regular season Carrick only had 7 points less than Josh Leivo with a much better plus minus ranking of +17. There isn't a lot of age difference, only a year. I am sure Josh Leivo will get a good ranking so I think you have to do better for Carrick.

Carrick is the same age as Mckegg and only 12 points less in the regular season, but 17 better in plus/minus. With Carrick's toughness, 207 lbs NHL size and good two-way game...I would rank Carrick and McKegg in a similar range.

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August 23 2014, 02:25PM
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@WesternDP

Well said you should've applied for the job when he was hiring for a new writer. agree whole heartily with your carrick review.

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#3 WesternDP
August 23 2014, 04:54PM
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lupul4captain wrote:

Well said you should've applied for the job when he was hiring for a new writer. agree whole heartily with your carrick review.

Thanks, this may amaze you but I have a really good job with my own staff...and a pension plan.

Reading about the Leafs and Marlies is just something that brightens my day .

I don't think I could deal with all the public scutiny that goes with sports writing.

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#4 Leaf4Prez
August 24 2014, 01:42AM
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WesternDP wrote:

This is always one of the most fun series of articles for the end of an lazy August...so credit you folks for putting this together.

However, I know I am going to disagree. Sam Carrick as an honorable mention?

This is my post from Jan 24, 2014 from the mid term rankings:

"I would put a bit more emphasis on success in the AHL and as an NHL call up, where a guy has that. Some of these other guys are so far from the NHL.

There is a major omission from the top 20...Sam Carrick. The guy has 18 points , +12 and 65 PIMs in 38 games in the AHL this year. He is only 5 points behind Greg McKegg with a much better plus/minus as McKegg is only plus one. Compare his 18 points and +12 with Biggs who only has 5 and -2...

He also gets timely goals: game winners and can score on the shootout. He had the overtime winner last week. Spott calls him one of his best players and has mentioned a future call up to the NHL. He is solid and nasty. He has the size to play in the NHL. At 21 he is 6.0’ 207 lbs and can fight. Think a Steve Ott at center or a slightly bigger Gregory Campbell. Carrick’s OHL numbers were solid 67 points in 68 games, +15 and 104 PIMs in his final year, so this is no fluke.

This is my list: #1 - Morgan Rielly #2 - Peter Holland #3 - Josh Leivo #4 - Stuart Percy #5 - Matt Finn #6 - Carter Ashton #7 - Jerry D'Amigo #8 - Petter Granberg #9 - Frederik Gauthier #10 - Connor Brown #11 - Greg McKegg #12 - Sam Carrick #13 - Carter Verhaeghe #14 - David Broll #15 - Garret Sparks #16 - Andreas Johnson #17 - Fabrice Herzog #18 - Tyler Biggs #19 - Andrew MacWilliam #20 - Tom Nilsson."

Putting Carrick as a honorable mention just doesn't make sense. During the regular season Carrick only had 7 points less than Josh Leivo with a much better plus minus ranking of +17. There isn't a lot of age difference, only a year. I am sure Josh Leivo will get a good ranking so I think you have to do better for Carrick.

Carrick is the same age as Mckegg and only 12 points less in the regular season, but 17 better in plus/minus. With Carrick's toughness, 207 lbs NHL size and good two-way game...I would rank Carrick and McKegg in a similar range.

I agree with most of this list, except for #1. I wouldn't call Morgan Reilly a prospect anymore, he is a full fledged NHL Dman now, whose looking at more minutes this season, and looks like he's secured a spot on the second power play unit. #1 without a doubt is Nylander. Also I believe Gauthier deserves a spot in the top 20.

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#5 A rye morning
August 24 2014, 09:06AM
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WesternDP wrote:

This is always one of the most fun series of articles for the end of an lazy August...so credit you folks for putting this together.

However, I know I am going to disagree. Sam Carrick as an honorable mention?

This is my post from Jan 24, 2014 from the mid term rankings:

"I would put a bit more emphasis on success in the AHL and as an NHL call up, where a guy has that. Some of these other guys are so far from the NHL.

There is a major omission from the top 20...Sam Carrick. The guy has 18 points , +12 and 65 PIMs in 38 games in the AHL this year. He is only 5 points behind Greg McKegg with a much better plus/minus as McKegg is only plus one. Compare his 18 points and +12 with Biggs who only has 5 and -2...

He also gets timely goals: game winners and can score on the shootout. He had the overtime winner last week. Spott calls him one of his best players and has mentioned a future call up to the NHL. He is solid and nasty. He has the size to play in the NHL. At 21 he is 6.0’ 207 lbs and can fight. Think a Steve Ott at center or a slightly bigger Gregory Campbell. Carrick’s OHL numbers were solid 67 points in 68 games, +15 and 104 PIMs in his final year, so this is no fluke.

This is my list: #1 - Morgan Rielly #2 - Peter Holland #3 - Josh Leivo #4 - Stuart Percy #5 - Matt Finn #6 - Carter Ashton #7 - Jerry D'Amigo #8 - Petter Granberg #9 - Frederik Gauthier #10 - Connor Brown #11 - Greg McKegg #12 - Sam Carrick #13 - Carter Verhaeghe #14 - David Broll #15 - Garret Sparks #16 - Andreas Johnson #17 - Fabrice Herzog #18 - Tyler Biggs #19 - Andrew MacWilliam #20 - Tom Nilsson."

Putting Carrick as a honorable mention just doesn't make sense. During the regular season Carrick only had 7 points less than Josh Leivo with a much better plus minus ranking of +17. There isn't a lot of age difference, only a year. I am sure Josh Leivo will get a good ranking so I think you have to do better for Carrick.

Carrick is the same age as Mckegg and only 12 points less in the regular season, but 17 better in plus/minus. With Carrick's toughness, 207 lbs NHL size and good two-way game...I would rank Carrick and McKegg in a similar range.

I really wouldnt get in an uproar over someone's opinions, which is what this is.

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#6 WesternDP
August 24 2014, 09:07AM
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I really wouldnt get in an uproar over someone's opinions, which is what this is.

The above is not from me.!!

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#7 WesternDP
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WesternDP wrote:

This is always one of the most fun series of articles for the end of an lazy August...so credit you folks for putting this together.

However, I know I am going to disagree. Sam Carrick as an honorable mention?

This is my post from Jan 24, 2014 from the mid term rankings:

"I would put a bit more emphasis on success in the AHL and as an NHL call up, where a guy has that. Some of these other guys are so far from the NHL.

There is a major omission from the top 20...Sam Carrick. The guy has 18 points , +12 and 65 PIMs in 38 games in the AHL this year. He is only 5 points behind Greg McKegg with a much better plus/minus as McKegg is only plus one. Compare his 18 points and +12 with Biggs who only has 5 and -2...

He also gets timely goals: game winners and can score on the shootout. He had the overtime winner last week. Spott calls him one of his best players and has mentioned a future call up to the NHL. He is solid and nasty. He has the size to play in the NHL. At 21 he is 6.0’ 207 lbs and can fight. Think a Steve Ott at center or a slightly bigger Gregory Campbell. Carrick’s OHL numbers were solid 67 points in 68 games, +15 and 104 PIMs in his final year, so this is no fluke.

This is my list: #1 - Morgan Rielly #2 - Peter Holland #3 - Josh Leivo #4 - Stuart Percy #5 - Matt Finn #6 - Carter Ashton #7 - Jerry D'Amigo #8 - Petter Granberg #9 - Frederik Gauthier #10 - Connor Brown #11 - Greg McKegg #12 - Sam Carrick #13 - Carter Verhaeghe #14 - David Broll #15 - Garret Sparks #16 - Andreas Johnson #17 - Fabrice Herzog #18 - Tyler Biggs #19 - Andrew MacWilliam #20 - Tom Nilsson."

Putting Carrick as a honorable mention just doesn't make sense. During the regular season Carrick only had 7 points less than Josh Leivo with a much better plus minus ranking of +17. There isn't a lot of age difference, only a year. I am sure Josh Leivo will get a good ranking so I think you have to do better for Carrick.

Carrick is the same age as Mckegg and only 12 points less in the regular season, but 17 better in plus/minus. With Carrick's toughness, 207 lbs NHL size and good two-way game...I would rank Carrick and McKegg in a similar range.

While very well writteen, this comment didnt come from me.

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#8 Smokey
August 24 2014, 09:15AM
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Looking at Gauthier at #10 makes me think how we were just one pick away from Anthony Mantha, which is why they're the Red Wings and we're the Leafs.

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#9 WesternDP
August 24 2014, 09:16AM
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Looking at Gauthier at #10 makes me think how we were just one pick away from Anthony Mantha, which is why they're the Red Wings and we're the Leafs.

Lol, Great point.

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August 24 2014, 09:25AM
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The part in quotes was my midterm ranking last season, back when Reilly had played fewer games.

I will have to adjust my current rankings for a few things. D'Amigo is gone. Biggs did very little and drops further. Petter Granberg finnally got that call up for the last game and looked good so he has to move up. Viktor Loov has been coming along nicely and moves up. We also have to make room for Nylander with a good ranking just on skill.

There will be some enigmas and we won't really have a good gauge on some players for a few months. Tom Nilsson could legitimately be anywhere from 10 to 18. He was runner up to Andreas Johnson for Swedish Hockey League Rookie of the Year. He has a ton of international experience and is supposed to be coming to the Marlies this year. If you watch the video you will see that we might have a Niklas Kronwall type player:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQiz6jUSlAA.

At prospect camp, Finn and Nilsson were miles ahead of others. Will Nilsson struggle on the smaller ice? He might thrive. We probably won't know until 30 games into the Marlies season.

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#11 WesternDP
August 24 2014, 09:31AM
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"While very well writteen, this comment didnt come from me."

Fake, I almost always use apostrophes.

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#12 TEEM4N
August 24 2014, 11:31AM
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I agree with the whole Sam Carrick thing but Rielly isn't a prospect anymore and D'amigo got traded to Columbus

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#13 WesternDP
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I agree with the whole Sam Carrick thing but Rielly isn't a prospect anymore and D'amigo got traded to Columbus

"This is my post from Jan 24, 2014 from the mid term rankings"

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August 24 2014, 12:49PM
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WesternDP wrote:

"This is my post from Jan 24, 2014 from the mid term rankings"

Again, not mine. I almost always use apostrophes. You are conversing with a troll

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#15 TEEM4N
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I really like the Anthony Mantha comment.

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#16 Everything Leafs
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"To break a tie, we considered each player's’ heart and intangibles. Just kidding."

Bahaha, wouldn't that be the Clarkson evaluation system? Best part of the article!

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#17 WesternDP
August 25 2014, 05:18PM
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Wow, not one but TWO impostors. I'M the real WesternDP you nerds. Cut the crap.

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#18 Gumby
August 25 2014, 05:55PM
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WesternDP wrote:

Wow, not one but TWO impostors. I'M the real WesternDP you nerds. Cut the crap.

I don;t think you should worry since we saw through this troll's latest comment. We know you don't talk or post like this!! Get a life.

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#19 Gumby
August 26 2014, 07:14AM
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Stahp.

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#20 WesternDP
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Gumby wrote:

Stahp.

Sorry.

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