TWITTER FIGHT!!!!!!
David Alter, the Leafs and NHL reporter for Sportsnet 590 the Fan, reported what Nazem Kadri’s camp is allegedly asking for in ongoing contract negotiations with the Leafs. Nazem Kadri responded…negatively. Before I get into what I think, here’s how the conversation went.
Leafs and Kadri still far apart in contract negations. Kadri’s camp started with 6mill per for 6 years, willing to go down to 5mill..(cont)
— David Alter (@DavidAlter590) August 24, 2013
As a way to help out Leafs cap situation. Team Insists cap isn’t the issue… More interested in lower bride type deal for Kadri.
— David Alter (@DavidAlter590) August 24, 2013
Meanwhile Franson’s camp is still wanting a long-term deal as well.
— David Alter (@DavidAlter590) August 24, 2013
Hearing the counter for Kadri has been in the 2 x 3 mill range which makes it difficult. Far apart in both term and cash.
— David Alter (@DavidAlter590) August 24, 2013
Leafs biggest concern remains Kadri’s production dropping off significantly over the last 19 games including playoffs.
— David Alter (@DavidAlter590) August 24, 2013
And then ish got real…
@DavidAlter590 ur stories r so inaccurate it’s actually humorous #badcred
— Nazem Kadri (@43_Kadri) August 24, 2013
@43_Kadri going by what I’ve been told. Happy to set the record straight.
— David Alter (@DavidAlter590) August 24, 2013
Well that’s an exciting little turn of events, especially for hockey in the middle of August.
Let me get this out of the way right off the bat because I’m sure somebody will eagerly point this out in the comments section: David Alter is my friend. I hope that doesn’t change your mind on what I think of the situation, but at least I’m letting you know.
On the flip side, I have also met and spoken to Nazem Kadri a bunch of times. I don’t have a bad thing to say about the guy. In fact, I think he’s one of the more active and nicer guys on the team in terms of fan interaction.
Anyway…
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned yet is that Alter is currently in Vancouver, on what was supposed to be a vacation. Welp, so much for that! He penned (or typed) this post after the exchange.
Many people tweeted about how Kadri "owned" Alter. I’m not sure how. I mean, yeah, Kadri stuck up for himself, but that doesn’t mean he’s right and Alter’s lying or his sources are bogus. We’ll never be able to confirm the truth on this one. Alter reported something, and Kadri said it was wrong. It’s not like Kadri said what he was actually asking for, because that would be stupid. It’s also unlikely that Alter would reveal who told him those details, because that’s not exactly a smart move for a journalist to make. You don’t reveal sources.
On the other hand, you can’t blame Kadri. He’s in the middle of the first big contract negotiation of his young career, and it’s obviously starting to get pretty heated. He already voiced his displeasure with the negotiations in the media recently.
The start of the season is mere weeks away. Exhibition games start in less than a month. Training camp is even sooner. Kadri’s camp, if Alter’s report is true, is asking for a lot of money. You can’t blame them; that’s kind of their job. The Leafs are the other party in this negotiation, so they’re low-balling Kadri. No surprise there either. Complicating matters even more is that Dave Nonis has really put the Leafs in a cap crunch situation this summer. How he plans on signing both Kadri and Franson by the time the season starts is a mystery to me.
Kadri saw Alter report something about the negotiations, something Kadri would likely want to remain private if it’s true, and Alter also referred to Kadri’s dip in production at the end of the season. Those two triggers likely set Kadri off, as they would set off any young guy in a bad mood.
This is gonna be fun to watch.
If you’re interested in learning more about David Alter, he was on my podcast recently. You might be particularly interested in what he says about reporting, the pressure that comes with breaking stories, and his relationship with players in the Maple Leafs’ locker room.
I dont understand how Alter can just write an article with no facts and just throw out numbers quoting no sources or facts to back them up. The best part is you people are reading this and believing it just because Alter said it. The real facts are no one really knows anything and the tweets and article is speculation. Kadri’s response to him furthers that fact.
The facts are no one knows anything besides Kadri and Leafs management all these other “reporters” have no factual evidence just like every other Tom Dick and Harry sitting at the bar discussing this topic. And THAT people is the truth not what Alter and others are fabricating.
Alter can’t reveal his sources. Do you have any idea how reporting works?
His evidence is a guy, either in the Kadri camp or Leafs management, told him something. You get to believe it or dismiss it. Why you automatically assume a reporter is lying, I don’t know, but you’re entitled to that odd belief.
And a source from Calgary told us that Phaneuf is bad in the locker room. He must suck as a leaf captain. Ha ha you guys are too funny.
Yeah and that may be right or wrong. How do YOU know it to be right or wrong is what confuses me.
Simple, I Read the Other hockey sites as well as having Friends in the league offices in Toronto, That’s how.
I have it from a very GOOD SOURCE that you are #$###(insert your favorite expletive). Obviously everyone reading my post should be open that I maybe right or wrong about you. You see how this works but hey I’m just reporting what I heard.
Mr. Dangle Its not an odd belief and here is why. You say his evidence is either a guy in the Kadri Camp or Leaf Management. Well, I am a guy in the Kadri Camp so I do know and I can tell you Nazem was not happy and for the simple fact that Mr. Alter was way off on his assumption.
You can brush me off and say I have no proof that I am apart of the Kadri Camp but if you would like to contact me directly we can chat and I can fill you in on how. I believe my email is listed in the login I created.
Sounds legit. Must be true. No reason not to believe you, Camper.
Sounds legit. NVM the article, guyz. I iz rong.
“ur stories r so inaccurate it’s actually humorous”
Guys, relax. It’s pretty obvious that a 12 year old girl hacked Kadri’s account.
I’m not sure who is superior at trashing leaf players – the MSM or the online twitter stats folks.
Kadri often gets maligned as perhaps it both generates hits for MSM and bloggers. Remember how Kadri was “fat” and had a bad attitude etc. This is more of that terrible treatment by MSM and twitter trash talkers. If Cherry was saying this about Kadri, people would pull out the Xenophobic argument because of Kadri’s race.
I don’t care about a player’s advanced stats or opinion piece narratives and tweets that people spin when it comes to MSM or bloggers willing trashing my team.
I still enjoy my leafs – be it Kadri (entitled whiner), Lupul (poor advanced stats), Phanuef (bad captain), Kessel (backs out of physical play), Orr (soupcan facepuncher), Bozak (nice hair) and Reimer (bad glove hand) etc. I mostly like how Carlyle coaches (poor usage) and Nonis (potato power) does their jobs.
But the MSM and some advanced stats folks are in a class all by themselves with their “reporting” masquerading as hatchet job opinion pieces and hit generating stories and tweets. At one time the bloggers and advanced stats folk would hold the MSM to account but now they are as bad if not worse then them.
Give him the big dollar long term deal he wants and watch as he gets fat and lazy. This flop and fall down clowns’ only motivation is the big dollars. Once he gets them you can say goodbye to the work ethic and desire required to play at the NHL level.
Why doesnt Anyone ask this question to Leaf’s management. You signed Clarkson and Bollard to big contracts, Knowing you would have less than $5mil to resign Both Kadri and Franson. What was this team thinking??
Right on, don’t forget Bozak too. How they expect Kadri to less when he is better now and will be even more better then all those players.
Because Bozak was an unrestricted free agent and Kadri played well for about 30 games in a shortened year.
I actually think Nonis considered the cap crunch he’d create with the signings and went ahead anyway because he figured it’d force Kadri and Franson to accept bridge contracts sooner rather than later (instead of sitting out a long while first as Subban did).
He is now “forced” to play hardball when he probably wanted to play hardball all along.
They both know they can’t hold out for more because there’s only so much cap space.
So they’ll both have to prove they deserve big money by showing they can sustain their level of play for at least one more season.
@whyihatetheleafs, Don’t you know Steve Dangle is all Knowing and all Seeing, and is always right!!
Just get a deal done
Maybe the Leafs aren’t Used to having this much talent, some teams have Cap advisors, I wonder if we do as wel..
Sure, that may be right or wrong, but how do You know this?
I have no idea how an article where Steve Dangle more or less detailed a “he said, she said” between two other parties on twitter suddenly became a reason to attack and hate Steve Dangle.
Well I said I like Kadri, but apart from that I basically said he’s the worst guy ever, so.
Mr. Dangle has not contacted me further proving my point written above.