• I though Reimer was the blue warrior tonight. He played well and would have had a shutout easily if the leafs didn’t give up so many 2 on 1s. Had Reimer started against the Pens, he would have pitched a shutout with the leaf effort. The thing is the team doesn’t show up when Reimer plays and Vezina level goaltending can only take the team so far.

    I also thought Gardiner had a decent game.

    • Ok, I’m not supporting the way the team played but every goal Reimer let in was bad. I guess you could say the last one wasn’t bad because it was a breakaway caused by a terrible play by Phaneuf (if someone can tell me what he was trying to do I will gladly listen), but Reimer bit hard on the move. Overall, not a good effort by him or the team. I would say Gardiner is the blue warrior.

      • FlareKnight

        um no. no one deserved the blue warrior on the leafs. absolutely horrendous. i’m pretty sure gardiner was directly responsible for the 1st/2nd goal. i think he turned it right over to the sabres.

        • May_Day

          Regardless, the blue warrior goes to the player who played the best and for me that is clearly Gardiner. Yes, he turned the puck over but he also controlled play on many of his shifts so he didn’t look out of sorts like the rest of the team.

          • BubbaLou

            absolutely not. he wasn’t the best player. if most people had to choose, they would choose kadri or franson. franson producing offence yet again and was fine defensively for the most part. kadri controlled a lot of the play not gardiner. he was the most dangerous offensively and had an assist as well. kadri was the best of the worst despite having lower toi than bozak and clarkson for some stupid reason.

          • TGT23

            Not sure what game you were watching. I agree about Franson and Kadri, they looked pretty good but saying Gardiner didn’t control play, particularly in the third period is strange. I distinctly remember Gardiner going end to end and almost scoring as well as essentially quarterbacking the power play, creating the majority of the scoring chances.

  • TGT23

    Well… That was fun… No, sorry, I meant the OTHER THING!!

    I don’t understand this team except that they probably aren’t good. Can this be the final nail I’m the Carlyle coffin please?! No, probably not. The Leafs love torturing us too much.

    Oh, hey, leafer… Go ahead and tell us how this game proves Reimer is a star… I dare you. And (I forget who) can tell us how being great at shootouts is the same as being great in games. Like that breakaway scored on him…

    I mean, it isn’t all his fault by any means, but he wasn’t good either. Not even a little.

  • BubbaLou

    Knock knock is anybody home????

    that was just awful, takj about goaltending not being consistant, the team itself is inconsistant,,,I mean they can play really well one night than go back to sucking the next couple games than look great again for 1 game than look like crap again..I mean how can you do so well the last game against this team only to look crap tonight???

    I think the Leafs ranked to be one of the worst most inconsistant team in the NHL never mind the Sabres…

    What a shame, that once again Reims is the one taking the brunt of the lost and how he is now going to be punished serverely for this lost….forget how well he has played this year better than Bernie has, how if this had been Bernie tonight there would be all kinds of excuses for his game tonight….

    I admit Riems did not have his game tonight, all Goalies do even the great ones, but he fought and I didn’t see him quit, it was I’m sure just as cruling for him to have to continue to play with a team that never left the starting line and left him to compete for the 60 minutes, I doubt he is very happy tonight with himself and the team, but I am moreanygry with RC because he should have pulled Reims because he was not having a great night and it woukd have made sense to have Bernie come out in the 3rd to hopefully make something happen if it was possible….instead RC left Reims out there to sink with the ship….that sucks, there goes his stats again just like last year, RC did the same thing than too…

    Funny had no problem pulling Bernie against Boston not to long ago, when he had 4 goals on him, so what happen here?

    Wouldn’t want to hurt Bernies stats is what…

    Anyways..sorry for Reims, it was a disaster tonight and I only hope he will bounce back and be great again next game, although if RC goes back to his old ways like last year he won’t get a game for awhile…..sad because this is the first game that he seem to struggle in…..

    Hang in there Reims, don’t give up..you will bounce back..

    • TGT23

      Reimer 3.15gaa .912 SV%
      Bernier 2.53gaa .920 SV%

      Tell us again how Reimer is outperforming Bernier. Would love to hear you lie and make excuses, then vilify people who support Bernier and do the same.

      And weren’t you the guy who said being good in shootouts means you’re good in game and on breakaways?? Man that worked so well for Reimer tonight.

      Can’t wait for the Leafs REAL starter, Johnathan Bernier, to start next game.

    • STAN

      Wait, they didn’t want to hurt Bernier’s stats? I thought the complaint was that Bernier never got pulled and Reimer had too short of a leash? You guys who blindly defend Reimer need to get your excuses in order, you’re starting to contradict yourselves.

      Oh, and Bernier wouldn’t have had his stats hurt by the Sabres. He shut them out when he played them.

      • BubbaLou

        well to reimer’s defence, the sabres came to play last night and the leafs didn’t. the sabres didn’t even try when bernier played them and the leafs did. all about consistency. if reimer played the sabres last time, he’d probably have a shut out too. hell, i would have a shut out. that was an echl team.

  • BubbaLou

    Knock knock is anybody home????

    that was just awful, takj about goaltending not being consistant, the team itself is inconsistant,,,I mean they can play really well one night than go back to sucking the next couple games than look great again for 1 game than look like crap again..I mean how can you do so well the last game against this team only to look crap tonight???

    I think the Leafs ranked to be one of the worst most inconsistant team in the NHL never mind the Sabres…

    What a shame, that once again Reims is the one taking the brunt of the lost and how he is now going to be punished serverely for this lost….forget how well he has played this year better than Bernie has, how if this had been Bernie tonight there would be all kinds of excuses for his game tonight….

    I admit Riems did not have his game tonight, all Goalies do even the great ones, but he fought and I didn’t see him quit, it was I’m sure just as cruling for him to have to continue to play with a team that never left the starting line and left him to compete for the 60 minutes, I doubt he is very happy tonight with himself and the team, but I am moreanygry with RC because he should have pulled Reims because he was not having a great night and it woukd have made sense to have Bernie come out in the 3rd to hopefully make something happen if it was possible….instead RC left Reims out there to sink with the ship….that sucks, there goes his stats again just like last year, RC did the same thing than too…

    Funny had no problem pulling Bernie against Boston not to long ago, when he had 4 goals on him, so what happen here?

    Wouldn’t want to hurt Bernies stats is what…

    Anyways..sorry for Reims, it was a disaster tonight and I only hope he will bounce back and be great again next game, although if RC goes back to his old ways like last year he won’t get a game for awhile…..sad because this is the first game that he seem to struggle in…..

    Hang in there Reims, don’t give up..you will bounce back..

  • FlareKnight

    It looks like Reimer has dropped below Bernier for both ES and all situation SV% this season after the very hot start.

    Just a few games ago I thought Reimer should run with the goaltending given his hot start, and higher SV% this season but now I’m flipflopping and backing Bernier and his higher SV%.

  • FlareKnight

    Somehow Clarkson is on pace for 23 goals. I’ll have to eat my crusty shorts if he scores more then 15 goals but I’ll probably just cop out and trash on Bozak or Carlyle.

    Clarkson still sucks though.

    • BubbaLou

      i read that clarkson is on pace for 20 points. forget 23 goals hahahaha why didn’t he pull a bolland and sign for the check?! he deserves half of that lofty salary as does bozak. i wish we fired loiselle/poulin after game 7’s collapse.

  • BubbaLou

    Thoughts: You know, this inconsistency is exactly what I expect from the Leafs. Team we should easily beat? Check. Other goalie playing out of his mind? Check. Sloppy errors begin because we’re playing pond hockey with them? Check

    -Randy Carlyle was blending lines after the first 5 minutes. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall early and tried to shock the team back from cardiac arrest? The whole team played pretty bad in the end anyway.

    -Fancystats show both teams had chances, 60-40 ish for Toronto, ironically. SOG has Buf outshooting us by 1, 35-34. One goalie was .941 (and saved some sure goals). One goalie was .829(but received little help from his whole team). That Buffalo put 35 on net, nevermind all the misses and blocks, should tell you enough.

    -Gardiner and Robidas in particular could not have deserved more stapling to the bench today. Everything went wrong for Gards today – terrible puck luck combined with bad choices. In team corsi, Robidas was 25% worse than the team average – easily winning the “most shelled in our zone award”. No blocks either, so it’s just a mess.

    -Tyler Bozak, jesus that was bad. If you thought Gards had a bad night, Bozak had the same D zone bloopers and bad decisions with the added bonus of being the guy where offense goes to die. He’s a 1C specifically because of good chemistry (and plays like a 3/4C tweener without Kessel/JVR – his Without stats are horrid relatively) which is why I feel this is the last player still being used outside of his ability in Toronto. Should he underperform even slightly, get Kadri back in the saddle – This position needs an upgrade.

    -It’s safe to say the Leafs have forgot the PP plan. Nobody was clicking with anybody, now 0-10 on PP since Boston.

    -Reimer got no help, but in turn, did not do much to back up the Leafs tonight either. It just was not a great game for him – some of those goals (goal 1 what the…), you gotta have. I guess I’m surprised RC did not go with Bernier after the 4-2 end of 2nd, but not really – he let Reimer have the whole night as a 2 goal deficit for this team is not impossible. The chance was there, though, for a swap.

    -The only team that seems more content than the Leafs to offer no resistance until well after the blue line is Buffalo. Both teams essentially allowed zone entries and neutral ice skating by mutual sloppiness and who-cares backchecking.

    • BubbaLou

      A very fair analysis I thought. But no mention of phaneuf’s game this season or against buffalo.

      Carlyle is sheltering his TOI and usage and certainly his corsi has improved but as one of the top salary earners on the leaf I’m not sure he is pulling his weight nor playing as a 1D might.

  • BubbaLou

    What’s up with people attacking leaf players and family on twitter? I’m so disappointed at the same fans berating April Reimer or for trolling Bozak, mimico Clarkson and Carlyle.

    Zero class. These should have to apologize to Reimer, like jeffler apologized to Bozak after his stalking and online bullying of Bozak (who had to ultimately block him for the negative vibes he was getting).

    A visiting police officer at a recent school assembly if my daughter, mentioned that these are the kind of examples that we all come to accept and then justify our own attacks on others. That is, other less thoughtful online twitters folks, use this as a guideline on how to piss on players and their wives after bad games. You know, how it is all :fun” to gang up and bully other people in a group fashion because we are all doing it. But some of these mean online bullies don’t appreciate the stress and hardship that this puts on players like Reimer, Clarkson and Bozak etc.

    Grow up folks. Criticism is fine (and even better when they are based on analytics to back your point) but these personal attacks are creating poor examples for my kids and the rest of society.

  • Gonzomaus

    Santorelli and Komarov had season lows in TOI tonight with around 10:30 each… maybe they were tired from going heads up against Crosby all night last night, but I still question thedecision to go with brand new line combinations on the second half of a back to back.

  • May_Day

    Horrible game by everyone!

    The consistency issues NEED to be resolved asap! They have to be dead last in the league in terms of consistency.

    So frustrating to see them dominate against the bruins, just to get embarrassed against the Rochester Americ- I mean Buffalo Sabres. ughh.

  • BubbaLou

    WOW HOW SAD!!!!

    Reimer has ONE bad game of the season and “Let’s trade him, he sucks , Bernie is better”

    You know everyone is bound to have an off day, and considering he’s played great this season up to this point give the guy a break…..

    Not going to get into another goalie war….sad team showing last night…this is worst than the game 7 lost…at least the bruins arean awsome team to loose too but SABERS??? thats plain sad….

    This team is plain awful 90% of the time and as far assomeone stating a 2 goal differece is attainable with a real team yes,,the Leafs no, look how bad it was on Friday 1 goal….can’t win like this…..

    to allow the Sabers to have over 30+ SOG is patheic…your blaming the wrong party, … yes he was off…but it was up to RC to pull or keepinh playing Reims….there was still a chance to come back, he chose not too….he could see Reims no matter what nothing was going right and the team was off in lalala land….

    Not very often I say pull Reims but he was struggling out there and the team left him on his own by not competeing and saying enough already lets take this team down..

    sorry Reims….I am with you all the way…

    • BubbaLou

      I think 2 things were true about the goaltending:
      Despite all that happened Reimer had a bad night, and because of how the entire team played Reimer had a bad night. http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/gamecenterlive?id=2014020251&condensed=true

      -1 was literally James Reimer covering air to his right after he loses sight of the rebound to his left. This is maybe the goal he is the most responsible for not allowing, although some of them will be partial faults

      -2 looks really bad on Reimer until you examine the chain of events. That goal doesn’t happen if Phaneuf gets Pylon’d at his blue line without even skating. Nor does it happen if Tyler Bozak loses a footrace with Zemgus Girgensons(holy crap). Gong Show indeed – Phaneuf is coming off a change and starts behind the play but applies no pressure to Flynn, and Bozak took 0 strides -NONE. Not a single push – coming back until he hits the Leafs BLUE LINE and sees he’s about to get beat in a footrace by Zemgus. I would have stapled Boazk to the bench for this. Reimer probably should have let the breakaway happen, but as described, gets no help at all.

      -3, Stafford takes a shot when both Winnik and Gardiner are perfectly aligned. Reimer saw nothing at all, it’s simply a good goal by Stafford.

      -4, Gardiner starts behind the play and rushes to catch up, but the feed to Moulson is a god-tier saucer pass to the tape. Reimer made a massive push to get across as he should have and got beat 5hole. Just another good goal with no Leafs back in time.

      -5, again, Bozak starts the play coasting beside JVR – with no man – and the shot that ultimately beats Reimer 5 hole is a feed to the only uncontested Buffalo player left – Bozak’s. By the time the shot in the slot flies, Bozak is nowhere close to contest, and arrives split seconds late to contest Myers for the loose puck behind Reimer. Reimer got beat 5 hole straight up this time, but again this does not happen unless Bozak lets it.

      -6 what do I even say at this point? From a wicked save on a PP attempt, Bozak completely fans on the rebound in the slot and sends it to the corner. Buffalo sends it up the boards and Franson contests the puck at the Line as he should. It goes skyward, tumbling across the ice. Dion Phaneuf as the last defender, rather than skate backward as Kessel backchecks Zemgus G, opts to race Zemgus the puck – a risky gamble. The bounce puts it in Girgensons’ lap instead, and he will beat Reimer. Breakaway goals are not the goalie’s fault – terrible decisions have to be made up ice for the space- and this one is all Phaneuf’s.

      I think this is the “Get away from me” moment for Kessel. He scored, set people up, and was not bad in general – Bozak fumbled way too many feeds. He saw the stupidity unfold around him on that play, and saw he was suddenly responsible for beating his man who, seconds before Phaneuf goes on an adventure, he was covering the outlet pass on the zone for the team.

      So what’s Reimer have to do with this? Some, the 5 hole was weak all night and a few were just bloopers, but that’s how the team played for him that night. Also to the disgusting people going after leafs family members after hockey games – throw your jersey on the ice already and get out. You’re sick in the head.

      • BubbaLou

        I have to agree with Bubba lou here. Clearly all the pucks Reimer does not stop are Bozak’s fault. Even when Bozak is sitting on the bench and Reimer allows a goal against, Bozak is still at fault. When we trade Bozak to another team, again all the goals that Reimer allow are Bozak’s fault. If we had a better centre who could play both forward AND goal then Reimer would have had a better SV%.

        Funny how no one writes long essays defending Bernier honor when he has a bad game. I’m not a Bozak fan, but sorry guy, this is a bit to biased here for you to remain objective imo.

        • BubbaLou

          I posted a link to a highlight pack so I didn’t have to do this. I thought I spread that blame fairly, given the abysmal backcheck the Leafs gave to help Reimer. If you think I’m being harsh on Bozak, go take a look at the goals I call him out on and tell me what really happened – I have him responsible for covering the goalscorer on goals 2 and 5, and he whiffs a gimme goal on 6 but is not responsible for the goal at the other end of the ice. All the goals? Get real, dude, that’s not what I said at all. I’m not a Bozak hater either – I’m a laziness hater. Nothing drives me bonkers like watching someone coast through all of neutral ice, and their mark scores unimpeded. It should anger you too.

          I have reimer fully responsible for goal 1(woof), and partly responsible for 2, and 5. 3 and 4 are sick setups that will beat goalies all over the league, and 6 is a complete defensive breakdown allowing a shorthanded breakaway.

    • TGT23

      Bernier is better… But let’s not trade Reimer… No, no. Fans love him (a bit irrationally but he is the only Leafs goalie to get the team to the playoffs recently… Also… keep them out of the playoffs… But whatever) and his contract, for a backup who will play 25-30 games, is unbelievable.

      What I’d like is for the same amount of perspective that Reimer fans offer when Reimer has a bad start or stretch offered both ways. Or, if failing that, the criticism that Bernier faces for having an okay game (even when he plays good, actually) be levied on Reimer as well.

      As for this game, Reimer was BAD. Really bad. He was awful. But, that being said, the team wasn’t very good either. Reimer needed the team to be better because he was off his game, they weren’t. The team needed Reimer to be better because they weren’t playing good, he wasn’t. It all culminates into that 60 minutes of torture.

  • FerdaBerta

    Horrible effort by the buds. They are so inconsistent. It drives me crazy. There are two different teams in that dressing room. The one that comes out to play like against Pittsburgh the other night, Boston 6-1, and Chicago. Then there’s the team that doesn’t care. 6-2 against the sabres??? Buffalo scored 20% of all their goals this season against the leafs last night. How do we make them more consistent? Fire Carlyle?