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Role Pacing: Forwards

Jeff Veillette
10 years ago
I’m seeing a lot of 82 game pace numbers being spread around the Internet right now for forwards on the Toronto Maple Leafs, mostly for the sake of arguing about people. The issue I have with a lot of these numbers is that they don’t account for ice time, so for the sake of your yelling, I’ve adjusted the numbers a bit for you. Enjoy and fly forth, young angry birds.

Straight Up

These are the current numbers for the Toronto Maple Leafs forwards. Goals, assists, points, and minutes. Lets keep it nice and simple; even games played will be irrelevant for now.
PlayerMinsGAPTS
Phil Kessel1355343973
James van Riemsdyk1335262753
Nazem Kadri1099172744
Tyler Bozak878152540
Joffrey Lupul1058191938
Mason Raymond1149181937
Nikolai Kulemin88981119
David Bolland2446410
Peter Holland4105510
David Clarkson6974610
Trevor Smith283459
Troy Bodie242279
Jay McClement994358
Carter Ashton186033
Jerry D’Amigo153112
Josh Leivo69112
David Broll41011

Top Six Minutes

Now, what happens when you put a player in the top six? Based on the structure of this team in the past couple of years, I’ve concluded that a first line player should expect to play about twenty minutes (slightly higher this year, but I digress), and a second line player about eighteen. Here’s how everybody adjusts.
PlayerMinsGAPTSMinsGAPTS
Phil Kessel16404147881476374279
James van Riemsdyk16403133641476282957
Nazem Kadri16402540651476223658
Tyler Bozak16402846741476254267
Joffrey Lupul16402929581476262652
Mason Raymond16402527521476232447
Nikolai Kulemin16401420341476131831
David Bolland16404026661476362460
Peter Holland16402020401476181836
David Clarkson164091423147681220
Trevor Smith16402328511476202646
Troy Bodie16401347601476124254
Jay McClement1640481214764711
Carter Ashton164002626147602323
Jerry D’Amigo164010102014769918
Josh Leivo16402323461476212142
David Broll164004040147603636

Bottom Six Minutes

The Leafs use their third line more than most teams, to make up for the fact that their fourth line is really a fighting squad and Jay McClement. As such, you get fifteen minutes a game on the third line, and seven minutes a game on the fourth.
PlayerMinsGAPTSMinsGAPTS
Phil Kessel1230303565574141630
James van Riemsdyk1230232447574111122
Nazem Kadri123019304957481422
Tyler Bozak123021355657491625
Joffrey Lupul1230222244574101020
Mason Raymond12301920395748917
Nikolai Kulemin12301115265745712
David Bolland123030205057414923
Peter Holland12301515305747714
David Clarkson123071017574347
Trevor Smith123017213857481018
Troy Bodie123010354557441620
Jay McClement1230369574123
Carter Ashton123001919574099
Jerry D’Amigo12308816574336
Josh Leivo12301717345748816
David Broll12300303057401414

Imperfection

Of course, this style of pace adjustment also doesn’t tell the whole story. Players like David Bolland and Josh Leivo are riding high numbers under low original minutes, which basically gives an extrapolation of a small sample size. Carter Ashton’s adjustment doesn’t account for the fact he’s still playing those 20 minutes a night with Colton Orr instead of Phil Kessel. Hell, if Orr played with Kessel, he may have some points to work with (don’t try this Randy). Conversely, if any of the first liners played fourth line minutes, their roles would change and production would drop. We’re also not accounting for chemistry either; what happens if Tyler Bozak drops to a line with say, Clarkson and Raymond and loses his Kessel-collaborative superpowers?
But you still get an idea of how their current play would work if given the time limits of a certain line, which is more accurate.than stretching to 82 games.

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